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[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Tigers are not in the NL by the way.

and I could care less about money. that has nothing to do with your inept argurment

so your jealous... thats what made you make a dumb comment?

Reading comprehension, homer: "former Tigers castoff," meaning Jair Jurjjens used to play for the Tigers and was castoff for a bucket of balls and two pouches of Big League Chew.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Reading comprehension, homer: "former Tigers castoff," meaning Jair Jurjjens used to play for the Tigers and was castoff for a bucket of balls and two pouches of Big League Chew.

Halladay would most likely win the Cy Young right now.

6 complete games to 2

almost double the quality starts

1/3 more innings. twice the strike outs

do you think there is any team in baseball that would take Jurjjens over Halladay?

why is Halladay starting the all star game over Jurjjens if JJ is better? doesnt the best pitcher on the squad start.

you fail.

[slotdirt]

Almost double the quality starts? WTF is a quality start in your book? If it's six innings with three runs or less, then ol' Jair has like 15 of them this season. So Halladay has 30? I'm impressed!

A Sabermetrician you are not, my friend.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Almost double the quality starts? WTF is a quality start in your book? If it's six innings with three runs or less, then ol' Jair has like 15 of them this season. So Halladay has 30? I'm impressed!

A Sabermetrician you are not, my friend.

7 innings or more.

you just have no clue about pitching and baseball in general.

i bet you havent watched more than one or two games all year. if that

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

7 innings or more.

you just have no clue about pitching and baseball in general.

i bet you havent watched more than one or two games all year. if that

Seriously, end of argument. It's not seven innings or more. Never has been seven innings or more. It's six innings, three runs or less, end of story. I can't argue with someone who doesn't understand what they're arguing.

[slotdirt]

http://cbssports.custhelp.com/app/an...etail/a_id/226

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...articleid=1623

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_start

http://www.sportsmogul.com/baseballcd/help/Glossary.htm

The end.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Seriously, end of argument. It's not seven innings or more. Never has been seven innings or more. It's six innings, three runs or less, end of story. I can't argue with someone who doesn't understand what they're arguing.

its hilarous 6 innings and 3 runs would be a below average start for a phillies player.

[slotdirt]

THen petition someone to change the definition of quality start. Halladay has 16, by the way, which is only one more than Jurjjens and three fewer than Verlander (Verlander stat thrown in for perspective).

[Antitrust32]

oh wow. you won the definition of quality starts.

the rest of the **** you wrote is just, ****.

halladay still has more quality starts. plus he has faced 125 more batters than JJ.

argue that

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

why is Halladay starting the all star game over Jurjjens if JJ is better? doesnt the best pitcher on the squad start.

you fail.

I have no dog in the fight, but this didn't help your arguement out.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I have no dog in the fight, but this didn't help your arguement out.

its okay. i certainly gave plenty that did help the arguement.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

its okay. i certainly gave plenty that did help the arguement.

Not really. Your entire arguement seemed based on "do you watch games?"

I watch at least a baseball game a night and Verlander has been the most dominant pitcher this year. They are all really good, but his stuff has been unhittable many days.

IMO Halladay and Jurrjens are a toss up. They have both been great. As both teams get healthy it should be a great race down to the wire.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Not really. Your entire arguement seemed based on "do you watch games?"

I watch at least a baseball game a night and Verlander has been the most dominant pitcher this year. They are all really good, but his stuff has been unhittable many days.

IMO Halladay and Jurrjens are a toss up. They have both been great. As both teams get healthy it should be a great race down to the wire.

really? the arguement was the phillies have the best rotation in baseball.

i dont even know how it is debatable.

halladay just got picked out, because he is the ace of our aces.

[Antitrust32]

just because halladay gives up a few more hits than verlander doesnt make him less dominant. Halladay gives up some singles and has amazing damage control. plus he has a great SO/BB ratio. i just dont see how you can look at the stat lines and say verlander is that much better than halladay. he might have the slightest of edges, but they have been pretty equal. i dont care if halladay is giving up 8 hits when he goes 7-9 innings routinely and gives up 1-2 (sometimes 3) runs.

when cliff lee is at his best, he's probably the most unhittable pitcher in baseball. see the month of June... i've never seen anything like it. one of the best pitching months in the entire history of baseball. he has been slightly inconsistant this season though, still, no complaints.