Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-21-2011, 03:22 AM
King Glorious's Avatar
King Glorious King Glorious is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Beaumont, CA
Posts: 4,614
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Calzone Lord View Post
The difference between Ghostzapper and Candy Ride is Candy Ride had just one race like that - Ghostzapper had several.
Candy Ride had three really good races here, including easily handling a grade one turf winner on the grass.
__________________
The real horses of the year (1986-2020)
Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-21-2011, 08:12 AM
NTamm1215 NTamm1215 is offline
Havre de Grace
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,629
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Glorious View Post
Candy Ride had three really good races here, including easily handling a grade one turf winner on the grass.
His dirt win over Primerica and Bonus Pay Day in an allowance race? The American Handicap was a GII and was a strong race. However, to say that either of his prior wins compared to his Pacific Classic is not accurate. It was the PC that has made him an internet sensation for the last 8 years.

His Pacific Classic was along the same lines as Ghostzapper's Iselin, BC Classic, and Met Mile. That's why Doug said Candy Ride had one and Ghostzapper had multiple sensational performances and I think he's absolutely right.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
King Glorious's Avatar
King Glorious King Glorious is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Beaumont, CA
Posts: 4,614
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Calzone Lord View Post
The difference between Ghostzapper and Candy Ride is Candy Ride had just one race like that - Ghostzapper had several.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NTamm1215 View Post
His dirt win over Primerica and Bonus Pay Day in an allowance race? The American Handicap was a GII and was a strong race. However, to say that either of his prior wins compared to his Pacific Classic is not accurate. It was the PC that has made him an internet sensation for the last 8 years.

His Pacific Classic was along the same lines as Ghostzapper's Iselin, BC Classic, and Met Mile. That's why Doug said Candy Ride had one and Ghostzapper had multiple sensational performances and I think he's absolutely right.
I don't believe I put the other two on a par with the Pacific Classic. I just thought it wasn't fair to say he had one good one either. I also thought that his single best performance was the best of anyone else's single best performance in at least the last decade.
__________________
The real horses of the year (1986-2020)
Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
King Glorious's Avatar
King Glorious King Glorious is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Beaumont, CA
Posts: 4,614
Default

I also thought GZs Vosburgh was the performance that wowed me the most. I think its all not worth arguing though. Both were exceptional horses and I have no proof to dispute anyone that believes GZ was better because he just may have been. Neither of them was Lammtarra though lol.
__________________
The real horses of the year (1986-2020)
Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-22-2011, 12:05 PM
smuthg's Avatar
smuthg smuthg is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 1,010
Default

I think I recall seeing an interview with Tom Durkin where he said he went and measured 31 lengths the day before Smarty's Belmont just in case... in hindsight that is about as foolish of statement/action as one could make, but at the time, I think a lot of people thought (or hoped) that Smarty could put on a show of the nature of Secretariat's Belmont...
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-22-2011, 12:23 PM
Indian Charlie's Avatar
Indian Charlie Indian Charlie is offline
Goodwood
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 8,708
Default

wow.

i didn't know anyone at that time that thought of SJ as being some sort of superstar.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-22-2011, 12:38 PM
slotdirt's Avatar
slotdirt slotdirt is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,894
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indian Charlie View Post
wow.

i didn't know anyone at that time that thought of SJ as being some sort of superstar.
You must not have lived within 500 miles of Philadelphia for five weeks in 2004 then.

That Belmont crowd was pretty insane.
__________________
The world's foremost expert on virtually everything on the Redskins 2010 season: "Im going to go out on a limb here. I say they make the playoffs."
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-22-2011, 01:10 PM
King Glorious's Avatar
King Glorious King Glorious is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Beaumont, CA
Posts: 4,614
Default

Indian Charlie, are you serious? You didn't know ANYONE that thought of him as a superstar? That Belmont drew over 120k.
__________________
The real horses of the year (1986-2020)
Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.