The new party of no?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

BIG F'N DEAL and once again he gives the big middle finger to troops. [/i]

Not including military troops in a wage freeze proposal is giving them the finger? You're nuts.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not including military troops in a wage freeze proposal is giving them the finger? You're nuts.

I'm afraid he will cut the defense budget and possibly military wages. Especially if he is able to con his way to a second term.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I'm afraid he will cut the defense budget and possibly military wages. Especially if he is able to con his way to a second term.

That's the imaginary future. Yesterday he announced military salaries are not included in the freeze. But nice you worry about the troops, while you are willing to take other employees benefits and salaries away.

I'm mad at the next future elected Republican President, for daring to give unfunded tax cuts and starting a war with North Korea! He sucks!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I'm afraid he will cut the defense budget and possibly military wages. Especially if he is able to con his way to a second term.

defense could use some serious cutting actually. we spend roughly the same each year on our military as every other country combined. yes, EVERY other country in the entire world has to be added together to match what we spend, alone, on our military. makes you wonder why we want/need allies, nato, the u.n., etc. we could cut our funding in half, and still spend 1/4 of the entire worlds military budget all by ourselves. that's crazy.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

defense could use some serious cutting actually. we spend roughly the same each year on our military as every other country combined. yes, EVERY other country in the entire world has to be added together to match what we spend, alone, on our military. makes you wonder why we want/need allies, nato, the u.n., etc. we could cut our funding in half, and still spend 1/4 of the entire worlds military budget all by ourselves. that's crazy.

maybe it's because we are the military of the free world. When we send 150K troops to a war and Canada sends 500, Britian 5000 and the UN 3000 with no guns in white tanks (that we're paying for anyway) it's time to stop paying for dinner. But by no means should this affect the American soldiers' salary and or benefits. I say let little brother S. Korea show what he's got. Time to leave the nest. And once that bird flies we can decide who flies next.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

maybe it's because we are the military of the free world. When we send 150K troops to a war and Canada sends 500, Britian 5000 and the UN 3000 with no guns in white tanks (that we're paying for anyway) it's time to stop paying for dinner. But by no means should this affect the American soldiers' salary and or benefits. I say let little brother S. Korea show what he's got. Time to leave the nest. And once that bird flies we can decide who flies next.

we're the military of the free world but can't afford to be. it needs to change.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

we're the military of the free world but can't afford to be. it needs to change.

We can't afford not to be

[Cannon Shell]

The point people seem to be missing is that the Federal payrolls are bloated by tens to hundreds of thousands of unnecessary/unproductive employees who arent only increasing our expenses now but will do so into the future with their benefit packages. It isnt that dissimilar to what happened to the auto industry in the US where a disproportional amount of money is spent on people no longer working. It is almost impossible to fire a govt worker without them comitting some kind of felony.

The reason that private sector workers should be better paid than govt workers for similar jobs is because in the private sector, production matters and there is risk that you will be replaced. Not so in the vast majority of govt jobs.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

defense could use some serious cutting actually. we spend roughly the same each year on our military as every other country combined. yes, EVERY other country in the entire world has to be added together to match what we spend, alone, on our military. makes you wonder why we want/need allies, nato, the u.n., etc. we could cut our funding in half, and still spend 1/4 of the entire worlds military budget all by ourselves. that's crazy.

I would guess that your information is faulty. I say this because there is zero chance that we have any clue what the Chinese or N. Koreans or Iranians are spending on their military. As mater of fact i'd guess there is a great deal of spent on black projects here that is not included

Remember that a great deal of military spending goes to US corps and funds high paying US jobs.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I'm afraid he will cut the defense budget and possibly military wages. Especially if he is able to con his way to a second term.

the defense budget should be cut... maybe by up to 10-20%. i'm sure if you went through the defense budget line by line, there would be a ton of wasteful spending in there.

& its ridiculous to think people's salaries should be cut by 20%. now as far as those government benefits go.. those should be more in line with the private sector for sure.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

hes a lame duck president. he is now bending over for the gop. in the new world order of the us congress..his basketball skills are better than his diplomatic skills..