NFL Draft...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I guess it just depends on what your definition of "great" is. Pittsburgh has a history of letting players go via free agency after really good seasons. They have to. The owners aren't extremely wealthy outside of the team (relatively speaking of course) and they can't throw signing bonuses around to keep all of their good players. Leon Searcy?

They knew that Holmes was gone after next season anyway. He was going to be out four games and with all of the trouble with him and Ben, he was the perfect "example". The Jets were in the right place at the right time and willing to take the plunge. The jets really have nothing to lose. Contract is up and if he doesnt perform they can simply cut him. Where is the risk?

The Rooneys are plenty wealthy but that doesnt really matter because there is a salary cap in football.

How many of those players were better after leaving? Because Holmes career has shown himself to be simply pretty good and that is with a better QB throwing him the ball.

The risk is that they are depending on a guy that is one step away from playing no games next year. You cant just pick up starting quality NFL receivers on the fly. I agree that in the short term he may be worth the risk. But it is a stretch to say the acquisition of Santonio holmes make the Jets offseason a huge success.

Of course I am biased but I am not worried that Cromartie or Holmes or the 2 washed up guys are going to make much of an impact. What I am worried about is the continuation of the jets mysterious spell over opposing kickers. That is a far greater weapon than any of the new guys.

[ateamstupid]

Guess I have to change my avatar.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The Rooneys are plenty wealthy but that doesnt really matter because there is a salary cap in football.

I didnt say the Rooneys weren't wealthy. They are wealthy but a vast majority of their wealth is in the team. Compared to the Dan Snyders of the world (see relativelyspeaking) they aren't in the same league.

I am extremely surprised by this statement. I don't mean to jump on you here but I don't think that is coming out the way you intended. Are you really saying that an owner's individual worth "really doesn't matter" in regards to signing free agents because of the salary cap?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I didnt say the Rooneys weren't wealthy. They are wealthy but a vast majority of their wealth is in the team. Compared to the Dan Snyders of the world (see relativelyspeaking) they aren't in the same league.

I am extremely surprised by this statement. I don't mean to jump on you here but I don't think that is coming out the way you intended. Are you really saying that an owner's individual worth "really doesn't matter" in regards to signing free agents because of the salary cap?

The Rooney family is plenty wealthy. That little harness track in Yonkers is basically a money printing machine.

Yes an owners wealth really doesnt matter in regards to signing free agents. If it does then how does Green Bay sign anyone?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The Rooney family is plenty wealthy. That little harness track in Yonkers is basically a money printing machine.

Yes an owners wealth really doesnt matter in regards to signing free agents. If it does then how does Green Bay sign anyone?

Chuck i need a horse. I can't pick a horse to save my life. Can you throw one out for a fan of yours?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Chuck i need a horse. I can't pick a horse to save my life. Can you throw one out for a fan of yours?

In the NFL there is a hard cap and floor. Last year it was 128 million and the floor was 87.5% of that number. The cap is based upon the per team revenues. Extra benefits above the cap are capped at $12 million. So basically the teams HAVE to spend a certain amount on their payroll and CANT spend more than a certain amount all of which is based on guaranteed shared revenue. So how exactly does an owners individual wealth matter when signing FA's?

Now the extra's like stadium deals, payroll for coaches and staff, facilities, etc can no doubt be affected by an owners wealth but I dont see how an owners individual wealth matters in matters of free agency. It is really the main reason why the NFL is such a competitive league and there arent any FL marlins, just mismanaged teams (Redskins)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

In the NFL there is a hard cap and floor. Last year it was 128 million and the floor was 87.5% of that number. The cap is based upon the per team revenues. Extra benefits above the cap are capped at $12 million. So basically the teams HAVE to spend a certain amount on their payroll and CANT spend more than a certain amount all of which is based on guaranteed shared revenue. So how exactly does an owners individual wealth matter when signing FA's?

Now the extra's like stadium deals, payroll for coaches and staff, facilities, etc can no doubt be affected by an owners wealth but I dont see how an owners individual wealth matters in matters of free agency. It is really the main reason why the NFL is such a competitive league and there arent any FL marlins, just mismanaged teams (Redskins)

Speaking of the skins, they practically gave away campbell. A fourth rounder, two years from now, for him. Was that the best they could do??

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Speaking of the skins, they practically gave away campbell. A fourth rounder, two years from now, for him. Was that the best they could do??

I thought that was an extremely generous offer

Originally Posted by Danzig

Speaking of the skins, they practically gave away campbell. A fourth rounder, two years from now, for him. Was that the best they could do??

Yeah he sucks.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Chuck i need a horse. I can't pick a horse to save my life. Can you throw one out for a fan of yours?

Angry Dragon...but it may be awhile

[jms62]

I''m a Bills fan. Does anyone agree that this draft for the Bills is about as bad as it gets.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by jms62

I''m a Bills fan. Does anyone agree that this draft for the Bills is about as bad as it gets.

Yes.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

I''m a Bills fan. Does anyone agree that this draft for the Bills is about as bad as it gets.

The Bills have been bad for years. Do you expect it to end soon?