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Old 03-11-2020, 05:44 AM
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Many of these horses seem to need lots of time between races. Maybe they should be tested every few weeks whether they race or not.
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Old 03-11-2020, 06:04 AM
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Many of these horses seem to need lots of time between races. Maybe they should be tested every few weeks whether they race or not.
Out of competition testing does occur ahead of big stake targets, most notably Breeder's Cup. But as came up last year, those that are cycling steroid/steroid-like meds have taken horses off by the time horses are checked. And then, as seen with this situation, there's matter of things that won't test.
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Old 03-11-2020, 06:57 AM
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Out of competition testing does occur ahead of big stake targets, most notably Breeder's Cup. But as came up last year, those that are cycling steroid/steroid-like meds have taken horses off by the time horses are checked. And then, as seen with this situation, there's matter of things that won't test.
I suspect things that don’t test have always been the issue with this arms race. Modify a molecule or 2 to stay ahead of the tests...
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:03 AM
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But wait, There's more to come!!!
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Old 03-11-2020, 09:41 AM
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Twenty-five horses in joint ownership between Dubb/Servis. I want to believe, but Occam's Razor has a place in this discussion.

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.co...ckening-to-me/
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Old 03-11-2020, 10:01 AM
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Maybe I’m being petty and vindictive but the max penalty for misbranding is only 5 years imprisonment. Given the harm caused to the sport and bettors, and assuming the evidence supports it, I’d like to see the prosecutors get creative and nail them with something like wire fraud or mail fraud, which typically have higher max penalties. 5 years as a max is not enough for these guys.
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Old 03-11-2020, 11:01 AM
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Twenty-five horses in joint ownership between Dubb/Servis. I want to believe, but Occam's Razor has a place in this discussion.

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.co...ckening-to-me/
To me this has been the most embarrassing part of the entire ordeal. The owners playing dumb insults everyone’s intelligence.
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Old 03-11-2020, 11:18 AM
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To me this has been the most embarrassing part of the entire ordeal. The owners playing dumb insults everyone’s intelligence.
Brian Trump on Twitter yesterday was saying that he never worked with Peter Miller, who has not been charged but I guess people are speculating. Either way, ridiculous. He’s getting roasted.
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