FBI Raids at Calder and Palm Meadows

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Repole is a bad example he has given a lot of smallish trainers in NY a shot

Not really. He gave Levine some horses and while my memory isn’t what it used to be, it’s been mostly Pletcher for close to a decade.

Within the last year he’s spread a little but the fact he sent Navarro horses AFTER the juiceman video and AFTER all of his medications overages is a really bad look.

[bare it all]

I'm looking at a bunch of these owners using some of these trainers and claiming "I DIDNT KNOW" as the clueless partner in a relationship with a cheater. I've seen men/women refuse to accept they were cheated on despite mountains of evidence until a baby with a paternity test proving it shows up.

The FBI just dropped the paternity test off to these owners and they're SHOCKED they were cheated on and lied to...

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Not really. He gave Levine some horses and while my memory isn’t what it used to be, it’s been mostly Pletcher for close to a decade.

Within the last year he’s spread a little but the fact he sent Navarro horses AFTER the juiceman video and AFTER all of his medications overages is a really bad look.

Yep bad look for sure

[goodcopy]

For the horse and all aspects of training boarding and vet care!
Certainly, we can agree that all people indicated in race-fixing or race "Doping" should be "Cut Loose" Fired and immediately suspended and ran off all tracks.
Let's get all the facts, prosecute with honest due diligence and get rid of this and get on with the "Sport of Kings"
Stop acting like this is a bush track in Alabama and realize that this is at the very root of the game and the gambling that makes it go.
This is a watershed moment for this industry but I know of many very smart people and people with absolute honesty that can take charge of this and get us a national drug-testing program recognize the world over and get me back trying to hit that damm cross country pick 5

[ONTHERAIL]

Interesting how Dubb dumped Rudy when his numbers went down yet he knew nothing. Lol. Even more interesting that Rudy must have found out last year when they were investigating as he went from a 30% trainer to 15% overnight.

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by ONTHERAIL

Interesting how Dubb dumped Rudy when his numbers went down yet he knew nothing. Lol. Even more interesting that Rudy must have found out last year when they were investigating as he went from a 30% trainer to 15% overnight.

....I have become suspicious of just about everything. I know there are good people in racing but I cant get that $hitty taste out of my mouth when I watch a race now. Its disgusting that my perception over rules the reality of the game to the point that it is almost ruined for me. Maybe I just too ignorant of the game and just need to take a break for awhile

"Perception is Reality. ... be they your peers, subordinates, or superiors, how they perceive you is reality to them—and how you perceive yourself has nothing to do with it. It means that your behaviors and their results matter infinitely more than your intentions"

[Uncle Daddy]

I've tried to read and understand all the information from Monday and listen to the comments from knowledgeable people in the game. It's comforting some cheaters will go to jail and maybe put a few that were under the Feds radar on notice. If the Jockey club initiated some investigation that contributed here then they deserve credit for some action.

What's not comforting is the fact that Florida and NJ state racing commissions and Gulfstream & Monmouth track management did nothing - for several years. The people who host the races and certify their 'fair' competition did nothing. No inquiry, no investigation, no vet reviews or auditing , no monitoring. And maybe, with Navaro didn't know about dead horse removal from the track? Don't tell me that its a new day and we are moving forward. Tell me why another dime should be wagered or spent with these tracks???

[ScottJ]

Related to these first 27 names in the indictments, we now have names 28 and 29 including Rene Allard and Rich Banca from the harness racing game - top two "trainers" at Yonkers. (Sorry for the diversion from t-bred action.)

See the details here : https://harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/...-13-Allard.pdf

If you want to understand just how ugly some of these injectables have been, take a look at the recorded conversation between Ross Cohen and Lou Grasso regarding the Allard barn on pages 3 and 4. Grasso is quoted as saying, "Their heart rate was like triple they were breathing real heavy their membranes were going f***ing purple".

This story continues.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by ScottJ

Related to these first 27 names in the indictments, we now have names 28 and 29 including Rene Allard and Rich Banca from the harness racing game - top two "trainers" at Yonkers. (Sorry for the diversion from t-bred action.)

See the details here : https://harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/...-13-Allard.pdf

If you want to understand just how ugly some of these injectables have been, take a look at the recorded conversation between Ross Cohen and Lou Grasso regarding the Allard barn on pages 3 and 4. Grasso is quoted as saying, "Their heart rate was like triple they were breathing real heavy their membranes were going f***ing purple".

This story continues.

Surprised it took so long for allard. Seemed like it wasn't a secret in the harness industry.

Mr Gural quote "I'd rather go broke than to let Rene Allard race at my track"

[jms62]

Originally Posted by casp0555

....I have become suspicious of just about everything. I know there are good people in racing but I cant get that $hitty taste out of my mouth when I watch a race now. Its disgusting that my perception over rules the reality of the game to the point that it is almost ruined for me. Maybe I just too ignorant of the game and just need to take a break for awhile

"Perception is Reality. ... be they your peers, subordinates, or superiors, how they perceive you is reality to them—and how you perceive yourself has nothing to do with it. It means that your behaviors and their results matter infinitely more than your intentions"

I see it differently Billy. We always suspected who the cheats were and this weeks actions are going to rid the game of them and put the fear of the FEDS into any that are still cheating. From a handicapping perspective I will let any previously trained Navarro or Servis beat me until they prove they can 3 or more times (All previously trained not individual horseS)

[herkhorse]

What about the trainers that weren't indicted? Does Blackberry Wine break his maiden for the third time today?

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by jms62

I see it differently Billy. We always suspected who the cheats were and this weeks actions are going to rid the game of them and put the fear of the FEDS into any that are still cheating. From a handicapping perspective I will let any previously trained Navarro or Servis beat me until they prove they can 3 or more times (All previously trained not individual horseS)

Diodoro's not running scared that's for damn sure.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by ONTHERAIL

Interesting how Dubb dumped Rudy when his numbers went down yet he knew nothing. Lol. Even more interesting that Rudy must have found out last year when they were investigating as he went from a 30% trainer to 15% overnight.

Rudy still trains for Dubb (they have a horse running tomorrow) and was never a 30% trainer. His highest winning % was 26 in his first year of training, 2010. He’s been between 17-20% for the last 5 years.

Having said that, Dubb’s horses with Rudy always seem to run a bit better than Rudy’s other horses.