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Old 05-17-2014, 06:40 PM
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Old 05-17-2014, 06:50 PM
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Good for Mr. Coburn
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Old 05-17-2014, 07:48 PM
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Wow!! Wilford Brimley's clone. Right out of the Absence of Malice scene. Love how he gave kudos to the groom.
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He wouldn't be the first person to say this.
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Old 05-17-2014, 08:31 PM
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comments @ 13:20, for those that missed it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqmQEA1i-0
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Old 05-17-2014, 09:31 PM
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Makes the point to thank the groom in two interviews I saw. just guessing you wouldn't see that if Godolphin ever wins two legs of this series.
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Old 05-18-2014, 03:54 PM
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When I heard him say that I just thought "wow" I live in Lville and can't think of more odd stories around KD in quit was while. Porter complaining about seating, asking Wes walker for money back and now this. Like I told my boss,Churchill could mess up a 3some w 2 playmates. Very irritating and I'm interested to hear what could have happened that was so bad to make one of the owners pissed enough to miss Preakness
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Old 05-18-2014, 04:44 PM
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Saw something about saddlecloth misspellings....but I fail to see what would be accomplished by not going to pimlico...why would Churchill care if the guy skipped the second jewel?
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:04 PM
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http://www.whas11.com/news/Californi...259684631.html

CD responds in a statement at the end of the article. Despite the displeasure from thier patrons this year I really do not think things will change next year. Kentucky Derby is the most sought after event in the whole state and the most premier horse racing event in the whole country. To them its a privilege for anyone to attend the kentucky Derby and they feel they do not need to roll out the red carpet for anyone.
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Old 05-18-2014, 06:41 PM
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SA 8

The 1 is clearly the horse to beat here, but the 4 interests me at the price.

$20W 4
$10EXB 1,4
$10DD 4/3,5
$2TRIB 1,4,8
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Old 05-18-2014, 06:49 PM
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SA 8

The 1 is clearly the horse to beat here, but the 4 interests me at the price.

$20W 4
$10EXB 1,4
$10DD 4/3,5
$2TRIB 1,4,8
Oops, wrong thread. But I will gladly take it!
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Wildcat Red's owners were not too happy with their experience either:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...with-churchill
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:18 AM
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Wildcat Red's owners were not too happy with their experience either:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...with-churchill
"I felt like we were in exactly the same position as the people around me that weren't owners," Delfino said. "The treatment was no different. It was so badly organized; my husband was so disappointed."

i was sympathetic until that point.
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:50 AM
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What is the proper level of expectation of services for an owner attending the KD (or BC or other big race for that matter), even more so if there's a group of, say, 30 partners?

It seems inconceivable that a host track/association (in this case CDI) wouldn't put a golden halo on owners and give them basically butler-level treatment for the day. And have that explicitly spelled out well ahead of time. There are only 20 entrants, and the ownership groups associated with them comprise a tiny % of the overall attendance. CDI's exposure so to speak is very limited. Steve Coburn could eat 300 hot dogs and CDI would lose maybe 20 cents. They could limit it too...like 6 ultra-VIP tickets per owner and then first dibs on buying more. The key is to be explicit and precise in your offerings and deliver 110%.
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What is the proper level of expectation of services for an owner attending the KD (or BC or other big race for that matter), even more so if there's a group of, say, 30 partners?

It seems inconceivable that a host track/association (in this case CDI) wouldn't put a golden halo on owners and give them basically butler-level treatment for the day. And have that explicitly spelled out well ahead of time. There are only 20 entrants, and the ownership groups associated with them comprise a tiny % of the overall attendance. CDI's exposure so to speak is very limited. Steve Coburn could eat 300 hot dogs and CDI would lose maybe 20 cents. They could limit it too...like 6 ultra-VIP tickets per owner and then first dibs on buying more. The key is to be explicit and precise in your offerings and deliver 110%.
not sure, but i promise you i don't want fast food type meals, and i'm not a big time owner.
call them out for being sucky at customer service. that is a deserving bit of criticism.

there are 20 entrants, but you can bet if one owner won't go, there are others who will.
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:51 AM
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wow, what a feeling of entitlement. Wonder if she wants some cheese with that whine...
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:12 AM
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Without the Kentucky Derby, that s-hole doesn't even exist. I don't think it's asking a whole lot to provide 20 boxes and a little attention to the people responsible for floating your entire year. That's not to say that they need to bend over backwards for the 600 West Point "owners" that have a .005% stake in an entrant; but provide a concierge and 20 VIP boxes for the controlling interests of the horses that put on your show for you. It's really not that costly or difficult.
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:20 AM
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do you think Suffolk Downs got Cigar 2 years in a row by being classless as Churchill ? the red carpet was always laid out for any connections shipping in for a stake race. if you can't show the owners a good time, you have the wrong people in charge. It just makes for a good vibe through the whole plant. It also makes them come back.

At saratoga the good energy and vibe that runs through the place has a little something to do with how well everyone is treated.
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:25 AM
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do you think Suffolk Downs got Cigar 2 years in a row by being classless as Churchill ?
I think a couple of subs from Dimino's out the back gate would seal the deal.

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At saratoga the good energy and vibe that runs through the place has a little something to do with how well everyone is treated.
Ditto for Del Mar. It's palpable.
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Old 05-29-2014, 05:24 PM
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Without the Kentucky Derby, that s-hole doesn't even exist. I don't think it's asking a whole lot to provide 20 boxes and a little attention to the people responsible for floating your entire year. That's not to say that they need to bend over backwards for the 600 West Point "owners" that have a .005% stake in an entrant; but provide a concierge and 20 VIP boxes for the controlling interests of the horses that put on your show for you. It's really not that costly or difficult.
I snickered...
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