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Old 12-26-2010, 05:41 PM
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Old 12-27-2010, 09:16 PM
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End of life discussions? Planning directives on how a patient wants to be treated if they're unable to communicate that later on?

Scandalous stuff, I tell you!

Doctors and patients being responsible and smart, together talking about end of life care isn't really that big of a deal. Nobody ever said that wouldn't happen, because they'd have to be a total moron to think that because it's been happening forever, and it's the right conversation to have -- but of course, THAT wasn't what you meant by your subject line of this thread, because that would make far, far too much sense. The good news for Sarah Palin (and you, by starting this thread), is that now you all get to yell and scream and get paid attention to by idiots dim enough to believe that THIS article has anything at all to do with what you're all going to pretend it does.

Carry on!
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Old 12-27-2010, 09:30 PM
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End of life discussions? Planning directives on how a patient wants to be treated if they're unable to communicate that later on?

Scandalous stuff, I tell you!

Doctors and patients being responsible and smart, together talking about end of life care isn't really that big of a deal. Nobody ever said that wouldn't happen, because they'd have to be a total moron to think that because it's been happening forever, and it's the right conversation to have -- but of course, THAT wasn't what you meant by your subject line of this thread, because that would make far, far too much sense. The good news for Sarah Palin (and you, by starting this thread), is that now you all get to yell and scream and get paid attention to by idiots dim enough to believe that THIS article has anything at all to do with what you're all going to pretend it does.

Carry on!
the next article i post will require a password to access. you'll have to pm me to obtain permission to read it.

only timm can't figure out how to link a goddamn ny times article without use of an intermediary website.

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Old 12-27-2010, 09:35 PM
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Please. I had dinner with my parents tonight, whom Faux News has convinced this is the end of the healthcare world. Even though both have regular insurance Medicare supplement, Medicare, Rx Supplement, and advanced directives. How they got through that without being put to sleep by the government is a miracle!

Seriously - which part of this is supposed to be the nightmare 2010 Political Lie of The Year, Government Takeover of Healthcare and "Death Panels"? (other than what is really happening under Governor Jan Brewer today?)

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Under the new policy, outlined in a Medicare regulation, the government will pay doctors who advise patients on options for end-of-life care, which may include advance directives to forgo aggressive life-sustaining treatment.

[Edit: or - gasp! - may include advance directives desiring all aggressive life-sustaining treatment. Patients choice]

The final version of the health care legislation, signed into law by President Obama in March, authorized Medicare coverage of yearly physical examinations, or wellness visits. The new rule says Medicare will cover “voluntary advance care planning,” to discuss end-of-life treatment, as part of the annual visit.
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Old 12-28-2010, 07:28 AM
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Please. I had dinner with my parents tonight, whom Faux News has convinced this is the end of the healthcare world. Even though both have regular insurance Medicare supplement, Medicare, Rx Supplement, and advanced directives. How they got through that without being put to sleep by the government is a miracle!

Seriously - which part of this is supposed to be the nightmare 2010 Political Lie of The Year, Government Takeover of Healthcare and "Death Panels"? (other than what is really happening under Governor Jan Brewer today?)
A shame they didn't eat you to absolve themselves of sin.
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:16 PM
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A shame they didn't eat you to absolve themselves of sin.
Shame you don't have a personality
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Please. I had dinner with my parents tonight, whom Faux News has convinced this is the end of the healthcare world. Even though both have regular insurance Medicare supplement, Medicare, Rx Supplement, and advanced directives. How they got through that without being put to sleep by the government is a miracle!

Seriously - which part of this is supposed to be the nightmare 2010 Political Lie of The Year, Government Takeover of Healthcare and "Death Panels"? (other than what is really happening under Governor Jan Brewer today?)
And Obamacare is going to be any better?
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:15 PM
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And Obamacare is going to be any better?
What - exactly - do you dislike about Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act? That children can now remain insured on their parents policies until they are 26? That sick children cannot be kicked out of being insured for life due to exceeding a "lifetime cap of benefits" by the time they are eight years old? That your insurance company can't suddenly deny a claim based upon a pre-existing condition?
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