NFL O/U Total Wins

wiphan · #1 08-09-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

the hype is all media driven. Its not like they are the Heat declaring themselves champions for the next 5 years. Unless you are focusing on a tweet from the twit Vince Young, someone who at this point is our 3rd string QB.

the hype was built by ESPN. you certainly can't fault the Eagles for picking up some extremely good free agents/trades.

Agree 100%. Eagles are trying to down play the hype. They definitely improved on paper, but that means nothing. You never want to be the team everybody is talking about in Preseason they never seem to meet expectations.

Antitrust32 · #2 08-09-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wiphan

Agree 100%. Eagles are trying to down play the hype. They definitely improved on paper, but that means nothing. You never want to be the team everybody is talking about in Preseason they never seem to meet expectations.

I think its all up to Mike Vick... if he improves off his quality year last year, they will be tough. If he gets injured or reverts back to Atlanta Vick, it will be a tough year. (of course this is true for all the teams)

They have gone all in, so you could say Superbowl or bust... which would make your opinion of a dissapointing season a probability.

If you mean dissappointing as in not making the playoffs, I would strongly disagree.

slotdirt · #3 08-09-2011, 01:52 PM

I agree Kolb is a massive improvement over the goofy Derek Anderson/Max Hall/John Skelton trio from last year, but three wins is a lot to stick on one guy. Are the Cardinals right now better than either the Rams or the Seahawks? I'd say the answer is no.

Edited to add that I completely forgot the 49ers, who are also probably a better team than the Cardinals right now. Though the Cardinals do get to play the Vikings, Panthers, Bengals, and Browns this year (all of whom should be wholly atrocious), so perhaps eight wins isn't impossible.

somerfrost · #4 08-09-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I agree Kolb is a massive improvement over the goofy Derek Anderson/Max Hall/John Skelton trio from last year, but three wins is a lot to stick on one guy. Are the Cardinals right now better than either the Rams or the Seahawks? I'd say the answer is no.

Edited to add that I completely forgot the 49ers, who are also probably a better team than the Cardinals right now. Though the Cardinals do get to play the Vikings, Panthers, Bengals, and Browns this year (all of whom should be wholly atrocious), so perhaps eight wins isn't impossible.

Not sure the Vikings will be that terrible.

slotdirt · #5 08-09-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Not sure the Vikings will be that terrible.

I think they're a stone cold lock for last in that division, though the Bears are going to regress dramatically as well. Vikings just aren't as talented on the defensive side as they were a couple years ago.

clyde · #6 08-09-2011, 02:19 PM

Far too much hype on the Browns;too much pressure to win 6.5 games....3.25 is more realistic.

ateamstupid · #7 08-09-2011, 02:20 PM

The Cardinals' defense is still awful and they have no running game. It's gonna take more than Kolb and Fitzgerald to get them near the playoffs. Yeah, the division's terrible but the Cards are even worse.

slotdirt · #8 08-09-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The Cardinals' defense is still awful and they have no running game. It's gonna take more than Kolb and Fitzgerald to get them near the playoffs. Yeah, the division's terrible but the Cards are even worse.

If it's possible, the Cards defense is going to be even worse than last year. Honestly? They have to be the worst team in the worst division in football on paper. I can't see a .500 season in their future. Don't forget they've also lost their two best WR's not named "Fitzgerald" during the last two offseasons.

Antitrust32 · #9 08-09-2011, 02:39 PM

the division is really a crap shoot.

If I was betting, I'd take the over. With the division they are in, and the schedule they have, I believe they have a better chance of going 7-9 than 6-10

3kings · #10 08-09-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

If it's possible, the Cards defense is going to be even worse than last year. Honestly? They have to be the worst team in the worst division in football on paper. I can't see a .500 season in their future. Don't forget they've also lost their two best WR's not named "Fitzgerald" during the last two offseasons.

The defense picked up the best corner in the draft along with the a few lower level free agents. The remade the o-line and added Kolb and Heap. All that being said, they have six winnable division games plus play the Panthers, Browns, Bengals, Vikings, and Redskins. I will be betting the over.