6/11 (BEL): Belmont, Manhattan, Acorn, Just a Game, Stephens, True North

Travis Stone · #1 06-10-2011, 03:26 PM

Does anyone think a change of tactics might happen on say a Ruler On Ice or Prime Cut, and they break looking for the lead?

I guess even if that does happen, Shackleford can rate off a target, and he probably has the same questions about distance as before...

hockey2315 · #2 06-10-2011, 03:36 PM

I think people are ignoring the potential for Ruler On Ice to add to the early pace w/ the addition of blinkers and some fast recent works, and think Prime Cut might be close too.

Travis Stone · #3 06-10-2011, 04:26 PM

Shackleford is 16-1 in the early betting... what?

Clip-Clop · #4 06-10-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Shackleford is 16-1 in the early betting... what?

I hope it stays that way.

Travis Stone · #5 06-10-2011, 04:51 PM

It's early, but even in the doubles to Master Of Hounds is getting hit hard.... his DD with Birdrun is $17, versus $37 for Shackleford.

tjfla · #6 06-10-2011, 04:52 PM

Where u seeing the early odds at?

Travis Stone · #7 06-10-2011, 05:02 PM

They showed them on Versus... then there was a few people from on-track who were posting them to Twitter too.

Alan07 · #8 06-10-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Shackleford is 16-1 in the early betting... what?

Odds reflect on-track betting only.

Travis Stone · #9 06-10-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan07

Odds reflect on-track betting only.

Good to know. Thanks. But the double does not. And the double is 2x the payoff to Shackleford as Master of Hounds.

Mike · #10 06-10-2011, 06:20 PM

Way too early to think those early wagers are an indicator of race day odds; but it sure shows the media splurge and expert picks of Master of Hounds have dropped his odds, and at the seemingly sole expense of the disrespected Shackleford.

If it's wet, I'll box Shackleford and Mucho Macho Man

herkhorse · #11 06-10-2011, 06:54 PM

Windward Islands for the upset in the Manhattan.

ateamstupid · #12 06-11-2011, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

I think people are ignoring the potential for Ruler On Ice to add to the early pace w/ the addition of blinkers and some fast recent works, and think Prime Cut might be close too.

Ruler On Ice, like many Kelly Breen horses, has worked fast before the addition of blinkers. He blew out :46 and change before the Sunland race and :58 and change before the Tesio and didn't approach the lead in either race. Even if he does get sent early, I still have a tough time seeing how they don't crawl down the backstretch. It just isn't a field with much pace.