6/11 (BEL): Belmont, Manhattan, Acorn, Just a Game, Stephens, True North

Travis Stone · #1 06-10-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC

I like Brilliant Speed, his derby was similar to Summer Bird's.

In the Derby, Brilliant Speed was much wider and had the "tougher" trip. I might hedge myself on Santiva going forward... I still don't like Nehro that much though.

lemoncrush · #2 06-10-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

In the Derby, Brilliant Speed was much wider and had the "tougher" trip. I might hedge myself on Santiva going forward... I still don't like Nehro that much though.

I realize Animal Kingdom is bred for the turf, but his pre-derby workout obviously showed he moves really well on the dirt.

But watching Brilliant Speed's win in the Bluegrass again, he appears to really move like a turf horse, and I just can't get myself to like him....at all.

Travis Stone · #3 06-10-2011, 03:26 PM

Does anyone think a change of tactics might happen on say a Ruler On Ice or Prime Cut, and they break looking for the lead?

I guess even if that does happen, Shackleford can rate off a target, and he probably has the same questions about distance as before...

hockey2315 · #4 06-10-2011, 03:36 PM

I think people are ignoring the potential for Ruler On Ice to add to the early pace w/ the addition of blinkers and some fast recent works, and think Prime Cut might be close too.

Travis Stone · #5 06-10-2011, 04:26 PM

Shackleford is 16-1 in the early betting... what?

Clip-Clop · #6 06-10-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Shackleford is 16-1 in the early betting... what?

I hope it stays that way.

Travis Stone · #7 06-10-2011, 04:51 PM

It's early, but even in the doubles to Master Of Hounds is getting hit hard.... his DD with Birdrun is $17, versus $37 for Shackleford.

Alan07 · #8 06-10-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Shackleford is 16-1 in the early betting... what?

Odds reflect on-track betting only.

Travis Stone · #9 06-10-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan07

Odds reflect on-track betting only.

Good to know. Thanks. But the double does not. And the double is 2x the payoff to Shackleford as Master of Hounds.

ateamstupid · #10 06-11-2011, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

I think people are ignoring the potential for Ruler On Ice to add to the early pace w/ the addition of blinkers and some fast recent works, and think Prime Cut might be close too.

Ruler On Ice, like many Kelly Breen horses, has worked fast before the addition of blinkers. He blew out :46 and change before the Sunland race and :58 and change before the Tesio and didn't approach the lead in either race. Even if he does get sent early, I still have a tough time seeing how they don't crawl down the backstretch. It just isn't a field with much pace.