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Old 01-19-2011, 06:20 PM
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He dominated the toughest colony in the country for the entire year. He understands pace and race setups better than anyone on the game IMO. He rode more winners than Gomez and earned more money riding than Gomez did in 2010.

Sorry Hoss, he rode significantly more horses than Gomez ( 700) and barely beat him in earnings, less than 500,000, Gomez barely rode over 700 horses the whole year and earned 16 million. He didn't win the Saratoga title so he didn't dominate all year, and sorry, what half way decent rider wouldn't dominate Aqueduct? This is beginning to sound eerily familiar, next we're going to hear he did more for the game. I think the thing that sepeartes truly great riders from mere good riders are winning the big races, that is much more important tp me than winning riding titles, but again, that is just my opinion, I certainly respect yours, just saying.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:44 PM
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Sorry Hoss, he rode significantly more horses than Gomez ( 700) and barely beat him in earnings, less than 500,000, Gomez barely rode over 700 horses the whole year and earned 16 million. He didn't win the Saratoga title so he didn't dominate all year, and sorry, what half way decent rider wouldn't dominate Aqueduct? This is beginning to sound eerily familiar, next we're going to hear he did more for the game. I think the thing that sepeartes truly great riders from mere good riders are winning the big races, that is much more important tp me than winning riding titles, but again, that is just my opinion, I certainly respect yours, just saying.
Look, I know you LOVE Gomez and I have a lot of respect for him as a rider. But I was asked a question and provided facts for answers to the question.

Dominguez won more races and earned more money. IMO that is why he had a better year. I think you'd admit (if you were being honest) that you are extremely biased when it comes to Gomez, so this is sort of a pointless discussion.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:50 PM
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Look, I know you LOVE Gomez and I have a lot of respect for him as a rider. But I was asked a question and provided facts for answers to the question.

Dominguez won more races and earned more money. IMO that is why he had a better year. I think you'd admit (if you were being honest) that you are extremely biased when it comes to Gomez, so this is sort of a pointless discussion.

Truly friendship doesn't make me lose objectivity, I'm just saying I would have rather of had the year Gomez had as a rider last year than Ramon, simple as that.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:53 PM
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Truly friendship doesn't make me lose objectivity, I'm just saying I would have rather of had the year Gomez had as a rider last year than Ramon, simple as that.
Riding less horses and making as much money? Understandable. However, does that mean he should be recognized as the Eclipse award winning rider?

You should REALLY think about that before answering.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:00 PM
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Riding less horses and making as much money? Understandable. However, does that mean he should be recognized as the Eclipse award winning rider?

You should REALLY think about that before answering.

Not if they were just everyday races, but the races he happened to win? Yes, I guess I put a lot of stock in rising to the occasion.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:03 PM
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Not if they were just everyday races, but the races he happened to win? Yes, I guess I put a lot of stock in rising to the occasion.
Not me. I think everyday riding counts a great deal. It's easier to " rise to the occasion " especially with the benefit of not having put it out there race after race....and day after day.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:08 PM
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Take Ramon out of NYRA circuit and have him follow the same journey, Johnny V, Gomez, Castellano, Desormaux, Leparoux does throughout the year and you will quickly see how great of an average jockey he is. I believe last year he was 1 or 2 for 22 mounts at gulfstream last year.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:14 PM
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Take Ramon out of NYRA circuit and have him follow the same journey, Johnny V, Gomez, Castellano, Desormaux, Leparoux does throughout the year and you will quickly see how great of an average jockey he is. I believe last year he was 1 or 2 for 22 mounts at gulfstream last year.
Yeah, he gets embarassed at Saratoga every year against those same jockeys. Leparoux and Desormeaux really schooled him at Belmont this fall too.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:32 PM
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Take Ramon out of NYRA circuit and have him follow the same journey, Johnny V, Gomez, Castellano, Desormaux, Leparoux does throughout the year and you will quickly see how great of an average jockey he is. I believe last year he was 1 or 2 for 22 mounts at gulfstream last year.
He gave Winslow Homer a tremendous ride to win the Holy Bull last year.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. If you are looking to knock Ramon you should argue what a great jockey he is. That would, perhaps, give some of us pause.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:04 PM
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Take Ramon out of NYRA circuit and have him follow the same journey, Johnny V, Gomez, Castellano, Desormaux, Leparoux does throughout the year and you will quickly see how great of an average jockey he is. I believe last year he was 1 or 2 for 22 mounts at gulfstream last year.
Wow...
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