who do i bet in the classic

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by gales0678

you and scuds can die with him , not me

i think Tery Finely may finally do it this year and get West Point into the winners circle at the breeders cup , but the bird at 1 1/4 with borel is the main danger

Why you think I like him? I used him, but the only 2 I didn't use are A. GEM, and R V Winka. Put them all with C Ball. Pushed the hardest on TWICE OVER, R KID, EINSTEIN, MTB, SUMMER BIRD. Pushed the least on QR,GIO. The other 4 = moderately used.

[Gander]

Quality Road finally turns the tables on Summer Bird. I'm playing this race as if its on real dirt. But I do agree Gales, Mine that Bird isnt as hopeless as most think. Problem is I dont think the pace will be anything more than moderate, with a good chance of being slow.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Gander

Quality Road finally turns the tables on Summer Bird. I'm playing this race as if its on real dirt. But I do agree Gales, Mine that Bird isnt as hopeless as most think. Problem is I dont think the pace will be anything more than moderate, with a good chance of being slow.

That's the worst thing you can possibly do.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

That's the worst thing you can possibly do.

Well if I handicap it on poly, how can I possibly decide between the cast of characters who take turns beating one another? Its a complete guess unless you think Gio Ponti and Einstein are just much better. Then you have that Euro horse (Rip) who is anyone's guess as how he'll handle the poly. Whos to say Summer Bird and Quality Road wont handle it as well as Rip?
Not putting too much into this as far as money or thought. Just thinking Quality Road is a nice talent who will have things his own way in here. I've made worst bets.

[miraja2]

Right now I'm leaning toward WP on Twice Over
and ex box: Rip Van Winkle - Twice Over - Einstein

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Gander

Quality Road finally turns the tables on Summer Bird. I'm playing this race as if its on real dirt. But I do agree Gales, Mine that Bird isnt as hopeless as most think. Problem is I dont think the pace will be anything more than moderate, with a good chance of being slow.

gander, i totally agree. the pace could be crawling with regal ransom in the lead. its the perfect set up for the two horses you mentioned. give summer bird and quality road a slow moving target like this and one of them will get first jump at the lead. the poly is the question, will these two like it? looking at QR breeding, i think he will. mine that birds only shot is if this race collapses, which i don't see. add the fact that zenyatta is going to be overbet and you have a nice number. after seeing that jockey gold cup, i'm convinced that the 3 yo's are better than these older horses. i might be wrong but after seeing richards kid win the pacific classic and place in the goodwood. my feeling is most of the older division has no shot in this race. you could not find macho again within a pole of the top two when he raced them.(its probably the real reason he is not racing saturday) i think quality road and summer bird are this countries best shot at the best price that will be given.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

gander, i totally agree. the pace could be crawling with regal ransom in the lead. its the perfect set up for the two horses you mentioned. give summer bird and quality road a slow moving target like this and one of them will get first jump at the lead. the poly is the question, will these two like it? looking at QR breeding, i think he will. mine that birds only shot is if this race collapses, which i don't see. add the fact that zenyatta is going to be overbet and you have a nice number. after seeing that jockey gold cup, i'm convinced that the 3 yo's are better than these older horses. i might be wrong but after seeing richards kid win the pacific classic and place in the goodwood. my feeling is most of the older division has no shot in this race. you could not find macho again within a pole of the top two when he raced them. i think quality road and summer bird are this countries best shot at the best price that will be given.

I agree. Its not like Quality Road is a proven poly hater and they are just running him in the hopes of his one or two bad poly races were an aberration. Nobody knows how he'll like it. But with his talent and his high cruising speed, at about 10/1, I'll take my shot. I dont believe that this distance is too far for him either, especially going at a slow pace. Look at how he finished up in the Jockey Club Gold Cup. He lost by a small margin to a very good horse. He hasnt run a bad race ever. Maybe he will here and I lose my money, who knows. Playing this race hoping that his talent just gets him there.

Although I dont believe the pace will be strong, Mine that Bird just really scares me for some reason...I will be using him on pick 3's and pick 4's.

This is not the kind of race I would ever tell anybody how to play or how not to play, thats for sure.

Good luck!

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Gander

I agree. Its not like Quality Road is a proven poly hater and they are just running him in the hopes of his one or two bad poly races were an aberration. Nobody knows how he'll like it. But with his talent and his high cruising speed, at about 10/1, I'll take my shot. I dont believe that this distance is too far for him either, especially going at a slow pace. Look at how he finished up in the Jockey Club Gold Cup. He lost by a small margin to a very good horse. He hasnt run a bad race ever. Maybe he will here and I lose my money, who knows. Playing this race hoping that his talent just gets him there.

Although I dont believe the pace will be strong, Mine that Bird just really scares me for some reason...I will be using him on pick 3's and pick 4's.

This is not the kind of race I would ever tell anybody how to play or how not to play, thats for sure.

Good luck!

add to the fact that quality road has grass breeding. he should like it, even though its not a given. he caught wet tracks both times at the distance. this horse puts up monster numbers on a dry track. its a definite overlay.

good luck if you win i win!

[Gander]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

add to the fact that quality road has grass breeding. he should like it, even though its not a given. he caught wet tracks both times at the distance. this horse puts up monster numbers on a dry track. its a definite overlay.

good luck if you win i win!

LOL, maybe. Theres a lot of races before the Classic and I am an avid lover of Aqueduct, so there is about a 75% chance I'll be broke before this race goes off. I'd still love to see him win!

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Gander

LOL, maybe. Theres a lot of races before the Classic and I am an avid lover of Aqueduct, so there is about a 75% chance I'll be broke before this race goes off. I'd still love to see him win!

well hit something early so you can get it all at the end......lol