4/12 (KEE): Blue Grass (Gr. I)

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by nfliehman

I dont understand half of what you guys talk about on here lol but Im learning as I go. Alot of helpful info though so thank you guys. Goodluck to all today. With that said I havnt heard much talk about Visionaire. Does he stand a shot to hit the board with the 12 posts he drew?

We don't understand two-thirds of it ourselves so you are ahead of the game.
As for Visionaire, he doesn't seem like a great play to me. He is a decent horse, and the race is wide open, but I think he'll be slightly overbet and might be the type of runner that gets caught wide all the way around in this race.
I'm proabably out of my mind, but I kind of like Monba and Miner's Claim to be factors here, and am using them on a variety of tickets with Cool Coal Man and Big Truck. I'm banking on the fact that Pyro's slow works over this course means he doesn't like the surface and I am leaving him off entirely.

[letswastemoney]

wow pyro sux on polytrack

[ateamstupid]

Gotta love the tires!

[Mike]

Great news for Pyro fans, an off the board finish

[Mike]

I boxed Monba and Pyro;kicking myself now

I bet Union Ave. in the finale

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Mike

Great news for Pyro fans, an off the board finish

I guess if you mean just people who plan to bet on the horse in his next start when he returns to dirt, then yeah....it is good news.
If you really meant people that are actually fans of the horse however, I hardly see how watching your horse demonstrate that he sucks on polytrack could be a good thing.
I mean....they do still run races after the Kentucky Derby right?

[Mike]

Yeah, I'd probably steer Pyro away from synthetic tracks in the future if I were in charge, there's still a few natural dirt tracks in the US

[HaloWishingwell]

Actually if I was a PYRO fan I would be concerned. Polytrack is an easy excuse to use for his performance but that was terrible. Not to compare horses but STREET SENSE was known as not as good on poly but at least he was in the same zip code. He had no apparent trouble in the race and is a run horse that showed nothing today. This is not the kind of performance that leads to Derby victories.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

Actually if I was a PYRO fan I would be concerned. Polytrack is an easy excuse to use for his performance but that was terrible. Not to compare horses but STREET SENSE was known as not as good on poly but at least he was in the same zip code. He had no apparent trouble in the race and is a run horse that showed nothing today. This is not the kind of performance that leads to Derby victories.

totally agree, he did not run 1 step today, so basicely he's going into the derby off of a layoff of....almost 8 weeks, this race is a total total throw out, so now he in my mind has not raced since march 8th, where in my opinion he beat a weak group then, in a slow time.

i pray they bet this horse hard, i think he could run last.