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Kasept 04-07-2008 08:49 AM

4/12 (KEE): Blue Grass (Gr. I)
 
BLUEGRASS

1. Cool Coal Man, Kent Desormeaux, 4-1
2. Kentucky Bear, Jamie Theriot, 50-1
3. Cowboy Cal, John Velazquez, 15-1
4. Stevil, no rider, 30-1
5. Monba, Edgar Prado, 15-1
6. Big Truck, Eibar Coa, 6-1
7. Pyro, Shaun Bridgmohan, even money
8. Stone Bird, Corey Lanerie, 50-1
9. Medjool, Michael Baze, 30-1
10. Miner’s Claim, Patrick Husbands, 20-1
11. Halo Najib, Garrett Gomez, 15-1
12. Visionaire, Jose Lezcano, 6-1

Oaklawnfan 04-07-2008 12:11 PM

Does anyone know if they will have a Bluegrass - Arkansas Derby double wager this year?

lemoncrush 04-07-2008 12:25 PM

I believe Medjool is also pointing to the Bluegrass.

He and Miner's claim both have proven synthetic form over many of these, which could lead to a good betting race. Especially with Pyro, visionare and Cool Coal Man not needing to run their "A" race due to already having the necessary earnings.
Last year's slow, strangely run BlueGrass was won by Dominican, who won the Rushaway a few weeks earlier. Miner's Claim is taking the same path (although he finished 2nd in the Rushaway this year).

Food for thought.

jcs11204 04-07-2008 12:28 PM

miners claim, cowboy cal, cool coal man
triple

smuthg 04-07-2008 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oaklawnfan
Does anyone know if they will have a Bluegrass - Arkansas Derby double wager this year?

I think they are just doing the NTRA National Pick 4...

jcs11204 04-07-2008 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smuthg
I think they are just doing the NTRA National Pick 4...

are they doing the national, i love those bets. what 4 races ? arkansas, blue grass, holy bull, and something else ?

jcs11204 04-07-2008 01:48 PM

i cant find any info on a national pick 4 on ntra.com, are you sure they are offering that wager ?

lemoncrush 04-07-2008 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcs11204
i cant find any info on a national pick 4 on ntra.com, are you sure they are offering that wager ?

I loved betting the National Pick 4s too, but it seems they really scaled back, or stopped doing alltogether.
I know they used to do a National Pick 4 on Arlington Millions day, along with the Sword Dancer at Saratoga, etc.. They didn't offer it last year, and haven't seen them promote one in quite a long time.

jcs11204 04-07-2008 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush
I loved betting the National Pick 4s too, but it seems they really scaled back, or stopped doing alltogether.
I know they used to do a National Pick 4 on Arlington Millions day, along with the Sword Dancer at Saratoga, etc.. They didn't offer it last year, and haven't seen them promote one in quite a long time.

the poster above mentioned it, and has not responded to me asking if it is for sure. i hope there is one, i hit 2 of them, one was with smarty in arkansas and i think i had the cliffs edge keyed in the bluegrass over lion heart.

the other was when powerscourt came back to run in the arlington million, i singled him , i think he beat kittens joy or some other monster that day, because if i remember correctly he was 4-1 and the ticket paid pretty good. i think i also used a filly named Angara in the beverly d, at a decent price on that same ticket.

Kasept 04-07-2008 07:44 PM

Nat'l P4

The Arkansas Derby will be broadcast live on ESPN. It will also be part of a national pick four with the Blue Grass and Commonwealth at Keeneland and the $75,000 Instant Racing at Oaklawn.

Oaklawnfan 04-07-2008 07:53 PM

Pick 4, OMG, that's even better!:D

jcs11204 04-07-2008 09:17 PM

i am excited

jcs11204 04-07-2008 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Nat'l P4

The Arkansas Derby will be broadcast live on ESPN. It will also be part of a national pick four with the Blue Grass and Commonwealth at Keeneland and the $75,000 Instant Racing at Oaklawn.

will all the pick 4 races be shown on espn ?

Oaklawnfan 04-07-2008 10:00 PM

Do you realize how many cheap pick four combinations we can come up with? Any could win.:rolleyes:

hockey2315 04-07-2008 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcs11204
will all the pick 4 races be shown on espn ?

Doubt it

jcs11204 04-07-2008 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oaklawnfan
Do you realize how many cheap pick four combinations we can come up with? Any could win.:rolleyes:



from the probable fields it looks like it has to be a

4-4-2-2 ticket or something like that, i dont see a single, maybe a shot on elysium fields if he runs in arkansas

Kasept 04-08-2008 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcs11204
from the probable fields it looks like it has to be a

4-4-2-2 ticket or something like that, i dont see a single, maybe a shot on elysium fields if he runs in arkansas

I have a wacky notion... Wait until they draw the Commonwealth and Instant Racing fields and THEN start structuring tickets. And singling Elysium Fields, if he runs, 2 weeks after his boiler nearly exploded, would be highly risky. I'm stunned that Tagg is considering it in fact after Robin Smullen's comments post-FL Derby. A heat prostration episode like he had saps a horse. He worked yesterday with Big Truck, so you'll get some answers today. Barclay was a no-show yesterday on ATR so I'll try to get him today.

Danzig 04-08-2008 06:07 AM

i thought tagg was considering the coolmore for elysium?

GBBob 04-08-2008 06:16 AM

[quote=Kasept]Nat'l P4

The Arkansas Derby will be broadcast live on ESPN. It will also be part of a national pick four..... and the $75,000 Instant Racing at Oaklawn.[/QUOTE]


really??..interesting

herkhorse 04-08-2008 06:26 AM

[quote=GBBob]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Nat'l P4

The Arkansas Derby will be broadcast live on ESPN. It will also be part of a national pick four..... and the $75,000 Instant Racing at Oaklawn.[/QUOTE]


really??..interesting

Why is that so interesting?, do you know a horse pointed to the Instant Racing?


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