Adriano

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

Sedgefield is barely a high level claimer.

Oh, and Adriano's a legend..

As I said, I'll take a horse that ran second to Hard Spun and fifth in the Derby over a horse that beat a six-wide Halo Najib and got crushed in the Fountain of Youth..

[JJP]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Oh, and Adriano's a legend..

As I said, I'll take a horse that ran second to Hard Spun and fifth in the Derby over a horse that beat a six-wide Halo Najib and got crushed in the Fountain of Youth..

Not me. Adriano won the Lane's End in hand while Sedgefield never threatened Hard Spun. And Scav is right; Sedgefield isn't much anymore.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Oh, and Adriano's a legend..

As I said, I'll take a horse that ran second to Hard Spun and fifth in the Derby over a horse that beat a six-wide Halo Najib and got crushed in the Fountain of Youth..

Easy there thug life...i was responding to someone that even mentioned the hilarious Sedgefield. Adriano is garbage also

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

Easy there thug life...i was responding to someone that even mentioned the hilarious Sedgefield. Adriano is garbage also

Yeah, I mentioned Sedgefield. He's the exact same horse as Adriano, if not better. Don't take out your crappy day on me, (do)nut gobbler.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, I mentioned Sedgefield. He's the exact same horse as Adriano, if not better. Don't take out your crappy day on me, (do)nut gobbler.

Actually had a real good day, great week actually, until about 5pm till about 6:30pm. Garbage.....

(do)nut gobbler? Interesting in what that is or what it should be

Sorry for the interjection.
But it is very interesting.

Scavs no ill-will, but this
gambler,s "rage" stuff is interesting.
Other posters have clearly displayed
it. And of course we see it at the
track all the time.

I think a beer...errr cookies and milk
would help all concerned. All you guys
basically seem like good peeps to me.

Pillow will now strike me upside the head
with a tire iron. Excuse the sap Mr. Pillow sir.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Sorry for the interjection.
But it is very interesting.

Scavs no ill-will, but this
gambler,s "rage" stuff is interesting.
Other posters have clearly displayed
it. And of course we see it at the
track all the time.

I think a beer...errr cookies and milk
would help all concerned. All you guys
basically seem like good peeps to me.

Pillow will now strike me upside the head
with a tire iron. Excuse the sap Mr. Pillow sir.

It isn't gamblers rage, it is more my place of employment. 1 more month until I am an accountant, then things should progress

Originally Posted by Scav

It isn't gamblers rage, it is more my place of employment. 1 more month until I am an accountant, then things should progress

my bad

[Scav]

Originally Posted by pgardn

my bad

Plus, I like messing with Kev, always a good time.....

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Dude, are you serious? 5th in the Derby? Who cares about that? Adriano actually has run some nice races which is more than I can say for Sedgefield. Where exactly was his good race?

Are YOU serious? What makes Adriano's races "nice" and Sedgefield's not "good"? Sedgefield ran better figures and faced infinitely better horses than Adriano has..

[eajinabi]

Adriano put up two nice looking performances. One on Turf and one on Poly. His turf race looked good but he did settle behind a really fast pace before he took the race on his own and won by 8. His Lanes End Race he won in hand and just shook off his competetion. He may not like dirt if the FOY tells me anything but who knows what happened that day.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Adriano put up two nice looking performances. One on Turf and one on Poly. His turf race looked good but he did settle behind a really fast pace before he took the race on his own and won by 8. His Lanes End Race he won in hand and just shook off his competetion. He may not like dirt if the FOY tells me anything but who knows what happened that day.

Let me take a second here to FINALLY address this:

There are cases where horses get perfect setups running from the rear: these would be races contended on the front end, and followed by middle moves, that ultimately collapse. There was a 2 horse duel in that turf race. NOTHING else ran. Adriano closed 'on his own' and he WIPED OUT the field. In other words, while he was drawing off the last split, EVERYTHING else was going backwards. To say that he got a good setup would be to miss the point. (To look at complicated races, as those on the turf typically are, only in terms of how fast the splits are, would also be missing the point; but we really don't want to get into that.)

We need, at a minimum, to be able to distinguish between those races where horses run exceptionally and those where they get good setups, and run well as a result.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Let me take a second here to FINALLY address this:

There are cases where horses get perfect setups running from the rear: these would be races contended on the front end, and followed by middle moves, that ultimately collapse. There was a 2 horse duel in that turf race. NOTHING else ran. Adriano closed 'on his own' and he WIPED OUT the field. In other words, while he was drawing off the last split, EVERYTHING else was going backwards. To say that he got a good setup would be to miss the point. (To look at complicated races, as those on the turf typically are, only in terms of how fast the splits are, would also be missing the point; but we really don't want to get into that.)

We need, at a minimum, to be able to distinguish between those races where horses run exceptionally and those where they get good setups, and run well as a result.

Were there really any world beaters in that NW1 ALW turf race? Come on he had a GII and a GIII on his resume prior to that mentioned turf race and he still was not the favorite in that race (head scratcher). I am not saying it wasnt impressive looking beacuse it it did look nice but the two horses that dueled certainly did not stick around to be second or third. His Lanes End was a bit more impressive cause he was not at a full gallop when he crossed that wire and still no one closed.
His pedigree says route, he has the loot to get in the derby, and he will be fresh leading into the derby. I SAY TAKE A SHOT! He can always go back to Turf.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Were there really any world beaters in that NW1 ALW turf race? Come on he had a GII and a GIII on his resume prior to that mentioned turf race and he still was not the favorite in that race (head scratcher). I am not saying it wasnt impressive looking beacuse it it did look nice but the two horses that dueled certainly did not stick around to be second or third. His Lanes End was a bit more impressive cause he was not at a full gallop when he crossed that wire and still no one closed.
His pedigree says route, he has the loot to get in the derby, and he will be fresh leading into the derby. I SAY TAKE A SHOT! He can always go back to Turf.

I certainly thought he was a LOCK that day. His race against Cowboy Cal, at LRL, was HUGE.

I thought he moved too soon in the Lane's End.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Sedgefield ran well today.

Did he run today? Given his most recent form, who even bothered to notice.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Sedgefield ran well today.

Eh, whatever. Comparing what Sedgefield is doing now to what Adriano is doing now is pretty inane. Sedgefield has obviously been a disappointment since the Derby, but the fact remains that he ran way better and faster at three than Adriano has so far.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Are YOU serious? What makes Adriano's races "nice" and Sedgefield's not "good"? Sedgefield ran better figures and faced infinitely better horses than Adriano has..

What makes Adriano's races nice and Sedgefield's not so good?

Recency and no perspective.

Once the Derby is over, about 15 horses will be crowned "rats" after people have goo-gooed over them for 90 days.

A thread on Adriano is on the verge of reaching 3 pages. There is no hope for mankind.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

A thread on Adriano is on the verge of reaching 3 pages. There is no hope for mankind.

Why no such love for Recapturetheglory I wonder??

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Why no such love for Recapturetheglory I wonder??

maybe people want some reality to go with their fantasy?




and as for elysium fields (can't remember which thread included speculation about his next) he will NOT run in the lexington.