4/12 (KEE): Blue Grass (Gr. I)

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

any reason why Zito is sticking with Desormeaux when he's obviously staying with BIG BROWN for the Derby.

Must be because Joe Bravo is staying at GP this weekend.

I'm unloading if I can get 6/1 on Big Truck.

[hockey2315]

He looks like he's been training well, Coach. Personally I don't think he's nearly as talented as a few in here but he might be fully cranked for this. Tagg says he might not run him if the weather's bad, though.

[declansharbor]

Playing the Maker's Mark / Bluegrass double tomorow from the road.

KDeville/ CCMan, Pyro for 4$
KDeville/ CCal, BTruck, Visionaire for 4$
Einstein,R+Ready, Thous. Words, OOControl, Shakis/ CCal, BTruck for 1$

Best of luck to those playing tomorrow!!

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Seriously?

Yes.

I like Monba too.

[pgiaco]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yes.

I like Monba too.

I like Monba to beat the ambulance by at least a length.

Originally Posted by pgiaco

I like Monba to beat the ambulance by at least a length.

I like that attitude. If the trainer wasn't Tap I'd be looking at 50-1 odds.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yes.

I like Monba too.

I'm thinking the same way Big Truck and Monba worked well here and they are two that need this one. Trying to figure some combinations with them around the two chalks.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

I'm thinking the same way Big Truck and Monba worked well here and they are two that need this one. Trying to figure some combinations with them around the two chalks.

how does big truck need this ?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

how does big truck need this ?

for the money.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Danzig

for the money.

I figured he was in off his Tampa Bay Derby win. ???

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yes.

I like Monba too.

Saved my bad wager on Big Truck. Whew.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Did someone steal your login?

No.

This is polytrack. Normal handicapping methods go out the window on this sissy crap.

Just watch. Monba and Big Truck will run big on this garbage.

[HaloWishingwell]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Must be because Joe Bravo is staying at GP this weekend.

Joe Bravo turn down a potential Derby starter/contender? I tend to doubt it and who in Gulfstream Park is he riding that's worth it?

[Mike]

Great betting race, sure(the Bluegrass) and the exotics would be huge if Pyro gets blocked during the 9 horse blanket finish(which would be great for Pyro's Derby odds), but I need to win tomorrow

I'll be with Pyro, who's training well on the track, and against him by exacta boxing Pyro with Monba. Monba has a great record on synthetic surfaces, exiting a key race 1/2 length behind Colonel John, who returned to win the SA Derby

Pletcher's last best hope?

I can't go for the tri here because I would think even Kentucky Bear might screw the wager up

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cardus

If you're an owner with a horse on the bottom end of the Top 20 (or on the fringe hoping to get in), how bummed you will be when a horse with inferior dirt credentials wins the Blue Grass Stakes and bumps your horse from the Derby starting gate?

Bummed enough to think you should have gone to the AR derby for the $1M purse? Bummed enough to go back and realize the rules have been the same for some time and everyone knew the Bluegrass would be on Polytrack and could produce a middle of the road dirt/turf horse? Bummed enough to think that maybe your horse should have won a big race or two and there wouldn't be a problem?

Just thinking. Every year someone complains when everyone knows the rules and everyone knows the preps and the benefits and pitfalls of approaching the Derby certain ways.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cardus

I meant an owner of a horse not running in the Blue Grass tomorrow, and has no control over who runs in or wins the race. If I'm sitting in 20th place right now and Cowboy Cal, who was atrocious in his only dirt start, wins and displaces my horse from the Derby, I'd be furious.

But my point, is shouldn't you have ensured your horse was in a spot prior to the Blue Grass where the results wouldn't affect whether your horse made the gate or not?

The horses who have won, or have consistently run competitively in several graded stakes are already sure to get in.

If I recall correctly, 'Cal was horrific on dirt in his debut, no? Wouldn't be the first time a decent horse didn't run well first time out, surely won't be the last. After having nearly a year to get the requisite earnings with loads of stakes races with qualifying purses out there, I have a really hard time feeling sorry for someone whose horse comes up $10K short because the winner of a $750K Grade I race kept them out of the Derby.

It's not like these rules came out of nowhere three weeks ago...put your horse in a spot where you rely on his races to get in, instead of relying on someone else to run poorly to get in.

Synthetic and turf races shouldn't count for the Derby. Problem solved.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Synthetic and turf races shouldn't count for the Derby. Problem solved.

......really, keenland is a complete joke.