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Old 04-07-2008, 11:50 AM
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Hard Spun was a lot more horse then people think
He was nice Freddy - but lets examine Curlin's trip in the Derby shall we.

You have a lightly raced horse - only 3 career starts - never had dirt kicked in his face before.



Look at the tough spot he was in at this point in the race. His stablemate Zanjero actually comes off the rail - puts him in tight between another horse with a wall of horses (including many quitters in front of him) and worst f all opens up the rail - leaving all but Liquidity left between Street Sense and an unmolested dream rail run.
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:55 AM
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He was nice Freddy - but lets examine Curlin's trip in the Derby shall we.

You have a lightly raced horse - only 3 career starts - never had dirt kicked in his face before.



Look at the tough spot he was in at this point in the race. His stablemate Zanjero actually comes off the rail - puts him in tight between another horse with a wall of horses (including many quitters in front of him) and worst f all opens up the rail - leaving all but Liquidity left between Street Sense and an unmolested dream rail run.
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This thread has the potential to be a great one. DrugS doing his best KYRIM impression and Sumitas offering up opinions. I'm keeping an eye on this one.
...not to mention we somehow got Drugs to bring back the Street Sense Derby trip
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:03 PM
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...not to mention we somehow got Drugs to bring back the Street Sense Derby trip
People don't realize how much of a bum Sun King (<--- the most gutless horse ever - and one who should have zero fans) was.

In one of the worst Fernando Jara rides ever - he moves Invasor prematurely - and is hooked up with the previous years Travers winner for five furlongs before disposing of him.

As you can see...intense looks being exchanged....




After all of that - Sun King had every reason to mop him up - he didn't.

In my opinion, Sun King and his fans are bums.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:15 PM
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People don't realize how much of a bum Sun King (<--- the most gutless horse ever - and one who should have zero fans) was.

In my opinion, Sun King and his fans are bums.
Thanks for letting me know where I stand. I guess we'll never sit down and drink a cold one together.

But I do enjoy these trip threads you have started. They are very informative.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:26 PM
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On further thought, War Pass is more in the mold of a Songandaprayer. If he goes to the derby it'll be a thrill for his fans for a 1/2 or 3/4. I do believe War Pass would be a fav in the Kings Bishop but LaPenta seems bound and determined to make the derby. As Linny confided to us in another thread, Zito became deflated when he saw the stretch run in the Wood.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:30 PM
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On further thought, War Pass is more in the mold of a Songandaprayer. If he goes to the derby it'll be a thrill for his fans for a 1/2 or 3/4. I do believe War Pass would be a fav in the Kings Bishop but LaPenta seems bound and determined to make the derby. As Linny confided to us in another thread, Zito became deflated when he saw the stretch run in the Wood.
How would linny know?
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:32 PM
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Linny said he was in the box with the connections.
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Old 04-07-2008, 01:32 PM
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Drugs,

Very nice job once again. You must live in a blimp.

Based on everything you've seen, give me your top two Derby candidates...and why.

Thanks,

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Old 04-07-2008, 07:13 PM
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Great job DrugS! Keep them coming!
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Thanks for letting me know where I stand. I guess we'll never sit down and drink a cold one together..
Boomer..

DrugS' Sun King fan smear directed at just 1 Sun King fan specifically... All other Sun King fans get reprieve...
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:37 PM
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I can only imagine where Doug can take these newly accomplished Microsoft Paint skills.

I do love the information though, KEEP IT UP
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:38 PM
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I can only imagine where Doug can take these newly accomplished Microsoft Paint skills.

I do love the information though, KEEP IT UP
He is counting on all of us to love it
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:41 PM
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Boomer..

DrugS' Sun King fan smear directed at just 1 Sun King fan specifically... All other Sun King fans get reprieve...
Well, that makes me feel a little better......

I will sit down and drink a cold one with the 1 he is bustin' on.......
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Old 04-07-2008, 06:48 PM
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Boomer..

DrugS' Sun King fan smear directed at just 1 Sun King fan specifically... All other Sun King fans get reprieve...
I miss Andy...
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:15 PM
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I believe Jara was not getting alot of mounts in Cali and returned to Central or South America to ride. I do not know how accurate this info is because I don't recall where I heard it.
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Thanks for letting me know where I stand. I guess we'll never sit down and drink a cold one together.

But I do enjoy these trip threads you have started. They are very informative.
I'll drink a cold one to Sun King. I liked him. If he was a bum he was one of the richest bums I ever saw -- $2,097,018 career earnings.

And thanks for the interesting thread.
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I'll drink a cold one to Sun King. I liked him. If he was a bum he was one of the richest bums I ever saw -- $2,097,018 career earnings.

And thanks for the interesting thread.
Agreed. I'll take a bum like him any day of the week.
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In one of the worst Fernando Jara rides ever - he moves Invasor prematurely - and runs next to a washed up Flower Alley for five furlongs while in no way a part of the pace.
FTFY.
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:17 AM
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People don't realize how much of a bum Sun King (<--- the most gutless horse ever - and one who should have zero fans) was.

In one of the worst Fernando Jara rides ever - he moves Invasor prematurely - and is hooked up with the previous years Travers winner for five furlongs before disposing of him.

As you can see...intense looks being exchanged....



After all of that - Sun King had every reason to mop him up - he didn't.

In my opinion, Sun King and his fans are bums.
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Really great stuff in this thread, thanks Druggie-poos
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