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Old 01-31-2022, 05:01 PM
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Thanks knicks. I actually like Kinchen. Anyone with a Zenyatta tattoo is cool in my book. I don’t think he should blow the job (s) over it. It’s kind of bizarre though.
Ya I think he should be banned from NHC tourney though.
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Old 02-08-2022, 02:20 PM
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2 year ban from nhc
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Old 02-10-2022, 06:37 AM
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Think a mere DQ and not a ban should be the punishment here. Not like he gained any strategic advantage. **** I've seen a very well known players wife sitting at a table reading a book during the heat of a tournament with no computer, forms and she had an entry. Also saw same guy always accompanying her to the machines and would be leaning over watching every move.

This year also noticed a well know player who always has a 'secretary' with him and she was in front of me at the machines. Didn't see him place a bet the entire weekend.

NTRA proudly announced how this was first DQ in tournament history as if it were a badge of honor. I see it as an indictment on how pitiful they are in policing their tournament. They do a great job leading up to and the logistics of the tournament but once the gates spring it is a different story.

Also allowing runners and deferment's due to COVID is understandable even if I think there should be none. HOWEVER not notifying ALL MEMBERS that this was an option is complete and utter BULLSHIT and reeks of favoritism to all that weren't informed.
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Old 02-10-2022, 07:32 AM
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Not like he gained any strategic advantage.
He had the advantage of looking at the horses in the paddock and on the track. But more importantly, he had access to trainer and jockeys who are friends of his.

"Hey Chad, how is your horse in the 6th race doing?"

"Jose, what are your tactics with all the speed in the race?"
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Old 02-10-2022, 07:40 AM
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He had the advantage of looking at the horses in the paddock and on the track. But more importantly, he had access to trainer and jockeys who are friends of his.

"Hey Chad, how is your horse in the 6th race doing?"

"Jose, what are your tactics with all the speed in the race?"
You are right but that same access is used by players in room via phone.
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Old 02-10-2022, 07:41 AM
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He had the advantage of looking at the horses in the paddock and on the track. But more importantly, he had access to trainer and jockeys who are friends of his.

"Hey Chad, how is your horse in the 6th race doing?"

"Jose, what are your tactics with all the speed in the race?"
This argument is absurd. Criticize him for breaking the rules but to suggest this is ridiculous. Give me a break.
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Old 02-10-2022, 08:33 AM
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"Jose, what are your tactics with all the speed in the race?"
Something like this might actually be a disadvantage

To me…his blatant disregard for the rules is bad and deserving of some kind of punishment. His behavior afterwards made it seem like he thinks he’s above it all. I find that way worse than what he actually did. Without the NHC he has no job on TV, so he kind if bit the hand that fed him.

We’re all flawed and hopefully he learned something from this but again, his attitude after he was caught makes it seem like he didn’t.

Either way, hopefully it’s over and we can stop focusing on this attention hound and congratulate the actual person that won.
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Old 02-10-2022, 08:59 AM
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Something like this might actually be a disadvantage

To me…his blatant disregard for the rules is bad and deserving of some kind of punishment. His behavior afterwards made it seem like he thinks he’s above it all. I find that way worse than what he actually did. Without the NHC he has no job on TV, so he kind if bit the hand that fed him.

We’re all flawed and hopefully he learned something from this but again, his attitude after he was caught makes it seem like he didn’t.

Either way, hopefully it’s over and we can stop focusing on this attention hound and congratulate the actual person that won.
Let those of us who haven't popped off online after having a couple Pops cast the first stone
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Old 02-10-2022, 09:33 AM
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I know most of you guys play in tournaments but I do find it amusing to see how much conversation this has generated when it is a complete nonstory for anyone who doesn’t play in tournaments.
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