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Alabama Stakes 01-31-2022 10:57 AM

Disqualified.......
 
Surprised not to see anything here about Jonathan Kinchen getting DQ’ed at The NHC this weekend. You must be there in person to play, but he was at a Gulfstream for The big race and had someone else putting in his plays in Vegas. As a former champion, I’m sure he is familiar with the rules. He cheated deliberately and said it was worth it even though he got caught.

Dahoss 01-31-2022 11:11 AM

Sorry to see you back Dan

Dahoss 01-31-2022 11:14 AM

Good to see your commitment to accuracy is still there.

Dahoss 01-31-2022 11:45 AM

Edited and still inaccurate. Fantastic!

Alabama Stakes 01-31-2022 11:48 AM

I added a comma. Why don’t you enlighten us with what is inaccurate ?

Dahoss 01-31-2022 11:52 AM

Nothing to do with a comma. What year did Kinchen win the tournament?

Alabama Stakes 01-31-2022 12:13 PM

I mistook being the 2015 tour champion for winning the big tourney, but you get the point right ? He knows the rules and skirted the rules.

Dahoss 01-31-2022 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1161102)
I mistook being the 2015 tour champion for winning the big tourney, but you get the point right ? He knows the rules and skirted the rules.

Yeah he’s an idiot.

Why are you back? It was nice here without you.

freddymo 01-31-2022 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1161103)
Yeah he’s an idiot.

Why are you back? It was nice here without you.

JK made a weird decision, and I don't know the particulars. He was the first person I ran into at GP. He had to know people were going to recognize him and it would filter that he is was not in attendance in Vegas if he was walking around Gulfstream? Rules for thee but not for me?

jms62 01-31-2022 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1161104)
JK made a weird decision, and I don't know the particulars. He was the first person I ran into at GP. He had to know people were going to recognize him and it would filter that he is was not in attendance in Vegas if he was walking around Gulfstream? Rules for thee but not for me?

Disappointed in the "I didn't know the rules apology". I think "I broke the rule and accept the DQ" would sit better with players. Also in no way should this affect any of his other jobs like the Twitter Lynch mob wants.

Dahoss 01-31-2022 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1161105)
Disappointed in the "I didn't know the rules apology". I think "I broke the rule and accept the DQ" would sit better with players. Also in no way should this affect any of his other jobs like the Twitter Lynch mob wants.

Todays mea culpa was quite the 180 from his tweets yesterday.

Not saying he should lose his job but he does represent organizations. Cheating is a bad look, regardless of what he does.

freddymo 01-31-2022 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1161105)
Disappointed in the "I didn't know the rules apology". I think "I broke the rule and accept the DQ" would sit better with players. Also in no way should this affect any of his other jobs like the Twitter Lynch mob wants.

I have no clue why anyone would ever want someone to lose their job for getting DQ'd for a rules infraction in a friggin handicapping tournament. A lot of people on social media must live perfect pristine lives.

Dahoss 01-31-2022 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1161104)
JK made a weird decision, and I don't know the particulars. He was the first person I ran into at GP. He had to know people were going to recognize him and it would filter that he is was not in attendance in Vegas if he was walking around Gulfstream? Rules for thee but not for me?

He thinks he’s above it all.

Obviously he’s not.

Dahoss 01-31-2022 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1161107)
I have no clue why anyone would ever want someone to lose their job for getting DQ'd for a rules infraction in a friggin handicapping tournament. A lot of people on social media must live perfect pristine lives.

I’ll say it again…I don’t think he should lose his job.

But it’s a bit more than a rules infraction in a friggin handicapping tournament. Some people pay their bills through tournaments. What about those people?

Cheating is bad right?

Dahoss 01-31-2022 01:24 PM

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jms62 01-31-2022 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1161110)

Kind of blows away the "I didn't think it was a violation" excuse. Hence a simply I broke a rule and accept the DQ would have worked.

freddymo 01-31-2022 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1161109)
I'll say it again…I don't think he should lose his job.

But it's a bit more than a rules infraction in a friggin handicapping tournament. Some people pay their bills through tournaments. What about those people?

Cheating is bad right?

Cheating is terrible. He got disqualified, and he indeed has parlayed his contest success professionally, which must be contributing to people's outrage. These contests have been plagued by contestants pushing the envelope in the past.

The dude was walking around GP, so either he thought it was OK or didn't care. Neither answer is OK.

knickslions2 01-31-2022 02:43 PM

Is he banned from NHC tourney for good now?

knickslions2 01-31-2022 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1161094)
Surprised not to see anything here about Jonathan Kinchen getting DQ’ed at The NHC this weekend. You must be there in person to play, but he was at a Gulfstream for The big race and had someone else putting in his plays in Vegas. As a former champion, I’m sure he is familiar with the rules. He cheated deliberately and said it was worth it even though he got caught.

Glad to see you’re alive.

Alabama Stakes 01-31-2022 03:00 PM

Thanks knicks. I actually like Kinchen. Anyone with a Zenyatta tattoo is cool in my book. I don’t think he should blow the job (s) over it. It’s kind of bizarre though.


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