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Old 11-27-2006, 07:34 PM
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Default Just read that Frankel won his 7th Matriarch

Thats one hell of an accomplishment!!
I'm not sure if the Matriarch has always had grade one status, but if it has would not 7 wins by the same trainer in a grade one race be a record or approaching a record?
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:35 PM
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And Shug won only his FIRST Demoiselle (1.) according to John DaSilva, which surprised me...

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1. John DaSilva via text message to JJ Graci during 11/27/06 broadcast of ATRAB
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:36 PM
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And Shug won only his FIRST Demoiselle according to John DaSilva, which surprised me...
Geez,
I woulda lost a lotta money if you offered me that bet!!!
I can't believe thats correct.
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:37 PM
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where are the links and the sources for these rumors!?!? you 2 should know better after your lessons today!
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:39 PM
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where are the links and the sources for these rumors!?!? you 2 should know better after your lessons today!
I footnoted John DaSilva as the source..
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:40 PM
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I footnoted John DaSilva as the source..
with his blessing???
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:42 PM
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I just checked and indeed it was his first Demoiselle win Steve.
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with his blessing???
He's a public figure. His utterances are available as universal fodder.
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where are the links and the sources for these rumors!?!? you 2 should know better after your lessons today!
I'm pretty scared that the rumor police are gonna come after me, but life on the edge makes life worth living.
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:43 PM
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I just checked and indeed it was his first Demoiselle win Steve.
I was stunned Mike.. I thought 'How could Shug not have won a few of these by this point..." With that group of fillies?
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:48 PM
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I was stunned Mike.. I thought 'How could Shug not have won a few of these by this point..." With that group of fillies?
I thought the same thing. I know its a grade two now but i was wondering out loud the other day if there any Grade One's run in NY that he hasn't won.
Wish we had a list of the grade one's run here without having to think about it all night long.
I'd bet he's won almost all of them. I know he has all the big ones, many more than once.
Hes also won some races that have been downgraded but were grade ones at the time in which he won them.
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Old 11-27-2006, 08:00 PM
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Off the top of my head, I don't think he's ever won the Met Mile, and that's about as big a Grade 1 as there is in NY.
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Off the top of my head, I don't think he's ever won the Met Mile, and that's about as big a Grade 1 as there is in NY.
He got beat a nose with Seeking The Gold, and a head with Saarland, and has hit the board a whole bunch of times, but you are correct, no win.
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Old 11-27-2006, 08:08 PM
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He actually got beaten a couple of noses in the Seeking the Gold rendition, as Dancing Spree was also right in that photo with Proper Reality.
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He actually got beaten a couple of noses in the Seeking the Gold rendition, as Dancing Spree was also right in that photo with Proper Reality.
can you provide a link?
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can you provide a link?

I'm just hoping Byk bans me.
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Old 11-27-2006, 08:18 PM
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I'm just hoping Byk bans me.
Maybe a fine will suffice
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Old 11-28-2006, 06:34 AM
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Thats one hell of an accomplishment!!
I'm not sure if the Matriarch has always had grade one status, but if it has would not 7 wins by the same trainer in a grade one race be a record or approaching a record?
'Tis an easy task when you got the greatest fillies in the world.
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