Is Marvin Lewis a much better coach than what he gets credit for?

[Calzone Lord]

He's survived in Cincy for a long time now, when that place was a pit of hell before he got there.

His owner is a freaking cheapskate. He reportedly does a lot of annoying little things like charging players for gatorade instead of buying it for them.

Unlike most every other team, they let their top free agents getaway. Imagine how good the Bengals defense would be if they didn't let both Justin Smith and Johnathon Joseph get away?

Every year, the Bengals seem to lead the NFL in salary cap space. They're an NFL best $54 million under the cap again this year.

The guy has withstood a tightwad owner and decade long bad losing tradition the Bengals had...and that team has made the playoffs two years in a row playing in the same division as Pittsburgh and Baltimore.

A lot of people think he is a sh!t coach though, for some reason. Never really understood why. He's had useful QB's in Carson Palmer and Andy Dalton...but he's not a coach who gets completely carried by top flight QB play.

[BigBlue]

I've been a Bengals fan since the mid 70's which, of course, hasn't always been a easy thing to do. My Kenny Anderson replica jersey comes out every time they're on TV.

I like Marvin and I think he's a good coach. Mike Zimmer is good too. I'm not sure ownership has done the Bengals any favors over the years and pursuing and hanging on to some players that end up being more of a distraction than productive has been a problem.

It's been great to watch them over the last two years - I think they'll be even better this year which means I believe they'll be competitive with the best in the AFC and therefore best in the game.

[Danzig]

i think he's the first coach to actually have more career wins than losses with cincy, they're that bad.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think he's the first coach to actually have more career wins than losses with cincy, they're that bad.

79-80-1

Maybe next year he will.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

79-80-1

Maybe next year he will.

i think when i saw the show, he'd just inched above 500. oops...

[BigBlue]

It appears that owner Mike Brown's record is 115-204-1, so Marvin is boosting that win percentage.

Nice.

[kp319]

Originally Posted by BigBlue

I've been a Bengals fan since the mid 70's which, of course, hasn't always been a easy thing to do. My Kenny Anderson replica jersey comes out every time they're on TV.

I like Marvin and I think he's a good coach. Mike Zimmer is good too. I'm not sure ownership has done the Bengals any favors over the years and pursuing and hanging on to some players that end up being more of a distraction than productive has been a problem.

It's been great to watch them over the last two years - I think they'll be even better this year which means I believe they'll be competitive with the best in the AFC and therefore best in the game.

The games in the 70's between the Bengals, Oilers and the Steelers were some of the most brutal games you'll ever see. Those teams used to absolutely beat the **** out of each other.