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Old 02-12-2010, 06:50 AM
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Default An Orwellian move by Obama's administration

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html

"...the Obama administration has argued that warrantless tracking is permitted because Americans enjoy no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in their--or at least their cell phones'--whereabouts. U.S. Department of Justice lawyers say that "a customer's Fourth Amendment rights are not violated when the phone company reveals to the government its own records" that show where a mobile device placed and received calls."
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:31 AM
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html

"...the Obama administration has argued that warrantless tracking is permitted because Americans enjoy no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in their--or at least their cell phones'--whereabouts. U.S. Department of Justice lawyers say that "a customer's Fourth Amendment rights are not violated when the phone company reveals to the government its own records" that show where a mobile device placed and received calls."

all i can say is someone will take this to the supreme court, where they'll rule against the administration.
lol another exaample of the executive over-stepping it's bounds. remember when dems complained about bush? yet they probably will support their leader for similar actions.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:58 AM
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all i can say is someone will take this to the supreme court, where they'll rule against the administration.
lol another exaample of the executive over-stepping it's bounds. remember when dems complained about bush? yet they probably will support their leader for similar actions.
Depends on the composition of the Supreme Court at the time of the suit...
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:11 PM
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Listen to my conversations. I don't care.
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Old 02-12-2010, 01:03 PM
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Listen to my conversations. I don't care.
that's your mistake.
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Old 02-12-2010, 01:04 PM
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that's your mistake.
Yes it is.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:07 PM
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I definitely think that I should have a reasonable expectation that the government doesn't need to know where I am every second of the day.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:28 PM
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remember when dems complained about bush? yet they probably will support their leader for similar actions.
Not true in my case.
I heartily disagree with the administration on this issue (and many others).
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:35 PM
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Not true in my case.
I heartily disagree with the administration on this issue (and many others).
well,well,well!
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:38 PM
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well,well,well!
I've ripped this administration numerous times on here over DADT, Afghanistan, etc.
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John Titor was right after all..........
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Old 02-12-2010, 03:10 PM
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Not true in my case.
I heartily disagree with the administration on this issue (and many others).
good! more openmindedness is a good thing. people who follow party line exclusively just bother me.
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Old 02-12-2010, 04:34 PM
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good! more openmindedness is a good thing. people who follow party line exclusively just bother me.
Me,too!
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Old 02-12-2010, 04:54 PM
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Old 02-12-2010, 05:05 PM
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True story...yesterday I even read Rollingstone magaine!
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Old 02-12-2010, 10:08 PM
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True story...yesterday I even read Rollingstone magaine!
I watched a Fox-owned news station to get the lottery numbers the other night. My impartiality is now untouchable.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:00 PM
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I watched a Fox-owned news station to get the lottery numbers the other night. My impartiality is now untouchable.
I read the top stories from a couple different news sources, then check out Fox News for their take. It's astounding - the news is always completely different in that country.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:07 PM
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Listen to my conversations. I don't care.
Anybody with a few bucks can buy simple monitors that readily pick up cell phone calls. I don't know anyone who considers cell phones "secure" in a privacy sense to start with.

No, I don't agree my cell phone company should reveal my records without my permission.
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Anybody with a few bucks can buy simple monitors that readily pick up cell phone calls. I don't know anyone who considers cell phones "secure" in a privacy sense to start with.

No, I don't agree my cell phone company should reveal my records without my permission.
now or are you talking 1995? And 'monitors' LMAO
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Must be an old article from the google search.
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