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joeydb 02-12-2010 06:50 AM

An Orwellian move by Obama's administration
 
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html

"...the Obama administration has argued that warrantless tracking is permitted because Americans enjoy no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in their--or at least their cell phones'--whereabouts. U.S. Department of Justice lawyers say that "a customer's Fourth Amendment rights are not violated when the phone company reveals to the government its own records" that show where a mobile device placed and received calls."

Danzig 02-12-2010 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html

"...the Obama administration has argued that warrantless tracking is permitted because Americans enjoy no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in their--or at least their cell phones'--whereabouts. U.S. Department of Justice lawyers say that "a customer's Fourth Amendment rights are not violated when the phone company reveals to the government its own records" that show where a mobile device placed and received calls."


all i can say is someone will take this to the supreme court, where they'll rule against the administration.
lol another exaample of the executive over-stepping it's bounds. remember when dems complained about bush? yet they probably will support their leader for similar actions.

joeydb 02-12-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
all i can say is someone will take this to the supreme court, where they'll rule against the administration.
lol another exaample of the executive over-stepping it's bounds. remember when dems complained about bush? yet they probably will support their leader for similar actions.

Depends on the composition of the Supreme Court at the time of the suit...

randallscott35 02-12-2010 12:11 PM

Listen to my conversations. I don't care.

Danzig 02-12-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Listen to my conversations. I don't care.

that's your mistake.

randallscott35 02-12-2010 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
that's your mistake.

Yes it is.

brianwspencer 02-12-2010 02:07 PM

I definitely think that I should have a reasonable expectation that the government doesn't need to know where I am every second of the day.

miraja2 02-12-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
remember when dems complained about bush? yet they probably will support their leader for similar actions.

Not true in my case.
I heartily disagree with the administration on this issue (and many others).

timmgirvan 02-12-2010 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Not true in my case.
I heartily disagree with the administration on this issue (and many others).

well,well,well!

miraja2 02-12-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
well,well,well!

I've ripped this administration numerous times on here over DADT, Afghanistan, etc.

otisotisotis 02-12-2010 02:44 PM

John Titor was right after all..........:eek:

Danzig 02-12-2010 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Not true in my case.
I heartily disagree with the administration on this issue (and many others).

good! more openmindedness is a good thing. people who follow party line exclusively just bother me.

timmgirvan 02-12-2010 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
good! more openmindedness is a good thing. people who follow party line exclusively just bother me.

Me,too!:)

Danzig 02-12-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Me,too!:)


:rolleyes:

timmgirvan 02-12-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
:rolleyes:

True story...yesterday I even read Rollingstone magaine!:p

brianwspencer 02-12-2010 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
True story...yesterday I even read Rollingstone magaine!:p

I watched a Fox-owned news station to get the lottery numbers the other night. My impartiality is now untouchable.

Riot 02-12-2010 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
I watched a Fox-owned news station to get the lottery numbers the other night. My impartiality is now untouchable.

I read the top stories from a couple different news sources, then check out Fox News for their take. It's astounding - the news is always completely different in that country. :rolleyes:

Riot 02-12-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Listen to my conversations. I don't care.

Anybody with a few bucks can buy simple monitors that readily pick up cell phone calls. I don't know anyone who considers cell phones "secure" in a privacy sense to start with.

No, I don't agree my cell phone company should reveal my records without my permission.

dellinger63 02-13-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Anybody with a few bucks can buy simple monitors that readily pick up cell phone calls. I don't know anyone who considers cell phones "secure" in a privacy sense to start with.

No, I don't agree my cell phone company should reveal my records without my permission.

now or are you talking 1995? And 'monitors' LMAO

Coach Pants 02-13-2010 09:46 PM

Must be an old article from the google search.


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