Thorograph Annual Holiday Gift

[Scav]

I recommend ANYONE that wants to learn about what are considered high-end speed figures to go to thorograph.com and take advantage of their yearly holiday gift of free sheets for all tracks from 12/26 to 12/31. It gives people an opportunity to put them into your handicapping the day of, instead of the day after in the redboard room.

http://www.thorograph.com/

[blackthroatedwind]

Does it come in the form of a roll with tear-away sheets?

If so, I'll take a four pack.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cardus

And if I touted the Ragozin sheets?

He would say the same thing, he doesn't believe in speed figures

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cardus

I know. I thought that his response was immensely funny, regardless of how one feels about "sheet figures."

It took me a while to figure it out as I turned my brain off around 6pm today but it clicked.

I was just trying to give people the option. I know that they have helped me, hoping they could help someone else

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cardus

I think that it's a great offer to see another way of viewing past performances.

I just watched the last Balmoral race. How much snow fell in the "Second City?"

between 4 and 9 inches from what I hear on the news. I am about 2 miles from Arlington and I have about 6 inches in my front yard. Was kinda sneaky and early this year, it sucked shoveling, that is for sure. I went out at 11:30pm last night and there was about 2.5 inches and I thought it was done, but woke up today and there was another 4 inches on the ground, pretty hilarious seeing all these people drive in the snow, it is like the world is about to end

[VOL JACK]

Don't really agree with the tg and rag guys on alot of things. I have handicapped with the tgs before, to see what all the fuss is about. I found that taking class out of handicapping is going against everything I believe.

The best thing about the tgs are the current trainer stats. The ( last 90 days) is a great stat that DRF needs to look at adding.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Kentucky Downs? Kentucky side or Tennessee side?

Tn side live in the cookeville are.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Tennessee is still parimutuel free, right? Is Kentucky Downs' county still dry?

Yeah, but the state line is 500 yards away. And you can buy alcohol inside KD

[brianwspencer]

The TG promotion last year is what really got me into using their numbers.

I've found that it's no doubt a losing proposition to go it alone with their sheets, but really, they have come in handy so much for me and have led to what was easily my best year ever.

I can't tell you how many times I've looked at the form, class, pace calls -- tried to put it all together and kept coming up with 5 potential winners all hovering around 9/2 -- and how many times the TG numbers have helped me make a good decision in separating the horses that otherwise appear to be mostly equal.

Huge opportunity on the free numbers later this month. I'm hooked.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cardus

You guys are used to it, though, so it should have been OK, no? It's when it snows in Atlanta or somewhere else in the south that I expect to see the usual "bloopers."

Two miles form Arlington? Nice neighborhood!

There was a dusting about a week ago and there were three accidents on Rand Road between 53 and Dundee. Luckily this snow fell mostly while people were sleeping but people park all nuts or freak out. I learned my lesson in this stuff though when I first got my truck and was blazin 4 wheel drive. Almost took out a tree thinking that I was going to stop as fast as I was starting, not the case

[robfla]

I'm a DRF user, and have been for close to 30 years. When I look at the TG Sheets it looks like a Chinese phonebook to me. I've been to their redboard room, know people who use the sheets, but just can't get a handle on how to read them. Maybe one day I will find the patience to understand their numbers and patterns.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Scav

There was a dusting about a week ago and there were three accidents on Rand Road between 53 and Dundee. Luckily this snow fell mostly while people were sleeping but people park all nuts or freak out. I learned my lesson in this stuff though when I first got my truck and was blazin 4 wheel drive. Almost took out a tree thinking that I was going to stop as fast as I was starting, not the case

Is Chez Paree still there; corner of Rand and Lake-Cook?

[MISTERGEE]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

The TG promotion last year is what really got me into using their numbers.

I've found that it's no doubt a losing proposition to go it alone with their sheets, but really, they have come in handy so much for me and have led to what was easily my best year ever.

I can't tell you how many times I've looked at the form, class, pace calls -- tried to put it all together and kept coming up with 5 potential winners all hovering around 9/2 -- and how many times the TG numbers have helped me make a good decision in separating the horses that otherwise appear to be mostly equal.

Huge opportunity on the free numbers later this month. I'm hooked.

kind of a similar story for me. started looking for free last yr, then got hooked. i am doing better with them but i am having a hard time justifying the costs. lets say you like to look at 3 tracks a day, thats $60 a day at just once a week thats over $3 grand a year and even by any chance you like to look maybe 3 times a week thats about $10g. like i said you'll do better but maybe not enough to justify the costs. i have been using beyers for so long, i used to figure the numbers myself well before they were in the paper (ah the good old days). so i have to compare it to $5-6 bucks a day for about 6 tracks. i do feel beyer #s are less effective for many reasons. i really am a bit confused about it and wonder if there are other strong figs out there that we can use as a handicapping guide which are more reasonable and just as good. just wondering out loud what you guys think?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Is Chez Paree still there; corner of Rand and Lake-Cook?

and how would you know that establishment Bruce?

but, no..they finally zoned it, and all others that occupied that space, out of business

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by GBBob

and how would you know that establishment Bruce?

but, no..they finally zoned it, and all others that occupied that space, out of business

Bob, my mother knows about Chez Paree.

You know, when it's time for lunch, it's sometimes best to stop where you happen to be.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Yeah, but the state line is 500 yards away. And you can buy alcohol inside KD

Can you buy it inside now?? I have been going there for years, but you had to join the Sly Fox club and BYOB. That was a great deal if you ask me.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Bob, my mother knows about Chez Paree.

You know, when it's time for lunch, it's sometimes best to stop where you happen to be.

You think Scavs would know about a place called Chez Paree? The only thing he knows about Chez anything is Cheeze Whiz.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

Can you buy it inside now?? I have been going there for years, but you had to join the Sly Fox club and BYOB. That was a great deal if you ask me.

Yeah you do have to be a member of "Longshots". Named changed when new owners took over. No more BYOB with the new regime either, but it's hard to complain with all the renovations they have done.
I'm paying for the new Visios in $2.75 payments now.

[Scav]

I think it is called Dancers now or something, I remember the area because I had to stop at that Shell station about 10 years ago to use their bathrooms.

You speak of Cheese Whiz and two weeks ago we were rocking cheese in a can on Football Sunday, it was a good flash from the past.