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Scav 12-05-2007 07:46 PM

Thorograph Annual Holiday Gift
 
I recommend ANYONE that wants to learn about what are considered high-end speed figures to go to thorograph.com and take advantage of their yearly holiday gift of free sheets for all tracks from 12/26 to 12/31. It gives people an opportunity to put them into your handicapping the day of, instead of the day after in the redboard room.

http://www.thorograph.com/

blackthroatedwind 12-05-2007 07:59 PM

Does it come in the form of a roll with tear-away sheets?

If so, I'll take a four pack.

Scav 12-05-2007 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
And if I touted the Ragozin sheets?

He would say the same thing, he doesn't believe in speed figures

Scav 12-05-2007 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
I know. I thought that his response was immensely funny, regardless of how one feels about "sheet figures."

It took me a while to figure it out as I turned my brain off around 6pm today but it clicked.

I was just trying to give people the option. I know that they have helped me, hoping they could help someone else

Scav 12-05-2007 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
I think that it's a great offer to see another way of viewing past performances.

I just watched the last Balmoral race. How much snow fell in the "Second City?"

between 4 and 9 inches from what I hear on the news. I am about 2 miles from Arlington and I have about 6 inches in my front yard. Was kinda sneaky and early this year, it sucked shoveling, that is for sure. I went out at 11:30pm last night and there was about 2.5 inches and I thought it was done, but woke up today and there was another 4 inches on the ground, pretty hilarious seeing all these people drive in the snow, it is like the world is about to end

VOL JACK 12-05-2007 11:06 PM

Don't really agree with the tg and rag guys on alot of things. I have handicapped with the tgs before, to see what all the fuss is about. I found that taking class out of handicapping is going against everything I believe.

The best thing about the tgs are the current trainer stats. The ( last 90 days) is a great stat that DRF needs to look at adding.

VOL JACK 12-05-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
Kentucky Downs? Kentucky side or Tennessee side?

Tn side live in the cookeville are.

VOL JACK 12-05-2007 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
Tennessee is still parimutuel free, right? Is Kentucky Downs' county still dry?

Yeah, but the state line is 500 yards away. And you can buy alcohol inside KD

brianwspencer 12-05-2007 11:24 PM

The TG promotion last year is what really got me into using their numbers.

I've found that it's no doubt a losing proposition to go it alone with their sheets, but really, they have come in handy so much for me and have led to what was easily my best year ever.

I can't tell you how many times I've looked at the form, class, pace calls -- tried to put it all together and kept coming up with 5 potential winners all hovering around 9/2 -- and how many times the TG numbers have helped me make a good decision in separating the horses that otherwise appear to be mostly equal.

Huge opportunity on the free numbers later this month. I'm hooked.

Scav 12-06-2007 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
You guys are used to it, though, so it should have been OK, no? It's when it snows in Atlanta or somewhere else in the south that I expect to see the usual "bloopers."

Two miles form Arlington? Nice neighborhood!

There was a dusting about a week ago and there were three accidents on Rand Road between 53 and Dundee. Luckily this snow fell mostly while people were sleeping but people park all nuts or freak out. I learned my lesson in this stuff though when I first got my truck and was blazin 4 wheel drive. Almost took out a tree thinking that I was going to stop as fast as I was starting, not the case :)

robfla 12-06-2007 09:40 AM

I'm a DRF user, and have been for close to 30 years. When I look at the TG Sheets it looks like a Chinese phonebook to me. I've been to their redboard room, know people who use the sheets, but just can't get a handle on how to read them. Maybe one day I will find the patience to understand their numbers and patterns.

SentToStud 12-06-2007 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
There was a dusting about a week ago and there were three accidents on Rand Road between 53 and Dundee. Luckily this snow fell mostly while people were sleeping but people park all nuts or freak out. I learned my lesson in this stuff though when I first got my truck and was blazin 4 wheel drive. Almost took out a tree thinking that I was going to stop as fast as I was starting, not the case :)


Is Chez Paree still there; corner of Rand and Lake-Cook?

MISTERGEE 12-06-2007 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
The TG promotion last year is what really got me into using their numbers.

I've found that it's no doubt a losing proposition to go it alone with their sheets, but really, they have come in handy so much for me and have led to what was easily my best year ever.

I can't tell you how many times I've looked at the form, class, pace calls -- tried to put it all together and kept coming up with 5 potential winners all hovering around 9/2 -- and how many times the TG numbers have helped me make a good decision in separating the horses that otherwise appear to be mostly equal.

Huge opportunity on the free numbers later this month. I'm hooked.

kind of a similar story for me. started looking for free last yr, then got hooked. i am doing better with them but i am having a hard time justifying the costs. lets say you like to look at 3 tracks a day, thats $60 a day at just once a week thats over $3 grand a year and even by any chance you like to look maybe 3 times a week thats about $10g. like i said you'll do better but maybe not enough to justify the costs. i have been using beyers for so long, i used to figure the numbers myself well before they were in the paper (ah the good old days). so i have to compare it to $5-6 bucks a day for about 6 tracks. i do feel beyer #s are less effective for many reasons. i really am a bit confused about it and wonder if there are other strong figs out there that we can use as a handicapping guide which are more reasonable and just as good. just wondering out loud what you guys think?

GBBob 12-06-2007 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Is Chez Paree still there; corner of Rand and Lake-Cook?


and how would you know that establishment Bruce?

but, no..they finally zoned it, and all others that occupied that space, out of business


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