Collmus to replace Durkin?

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by Frost King

Announcers are only needed on track, and for simulcasts that don't have TRACKUS. Otherwise who listens? I just follow the chicklets. The chicklets will let you follow the complete trip of your horse. Who needs an announcer with TRACKUS.

I work for Trakus, and love it.

But with any sport on TV, the cameras show you the action. It sure gets more exciting and enlivened with the play-by-play though. Vin Scully, the late Harry Kalas, the dulcet Pat Summerall, etc...some legendary voices made the pictures even better.

I haven't heard anyone in the US quite capture the race like the melody offered by Tom Durkin.

[tector]

Enough of Denman already. Whenever I hear his call of Blame (whose name somehow acquires two extra syllables at the wire) winning the BCC, I think "Jesus, this guy sounds like he had an impacted turd blocking his sphincter."

[TouchOfGrey]

Originally Posted by tector

Enough of Denman already. Whenever I hear his call of Blame (whose name somehow acquires two extra syllables at the wire) winning the BCC, I think "Jesus, this guy sounds like he had an impacted turd blocking his sphincter."

You mean his call of Zenyatta losing the BCC? He called her name more than Blame's the entire way.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey

You mean his call of Zenyatta losing the BCC? He called her name more than Blame's the entire way.

This is dumb, national attention wise she was the star of the show coming into the race, not Blame, why wouldnt he call her out more?

People just are hell bent out of making something out of nothing.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

This is dumb, national attention wise she was the star of the show coming into the race, not Blame, why wouldnt he call her out more?

People just are hell bent out of making something out of nothing.

The stretch of that BC Classic will not be on his highlight reel. The fact that he more or less rooted her home and barely gave the winner any mention is probably the biggest faux pas an announcer can commit.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I personally didn't think anyone would be good enough to succeed Marshall Cassidy but Durkin came along to become the second best caller in the country behind Denman so I'm willing to give the next guy a shot.

I could listen to Trevor all day.

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

This is dumb, national attention wise she was the star of the show coming into the race, not Blame, why wouldnt he call her out more?

People just are hell bent out of making something out of nothing.

[TouchOfGrey]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The stretch of that BC Classic will not be on his highlight reel. The fact that he more or less rooted her home and barely gave the winner any mention is probably the biggest faux pas an announcer can commit.

Yes, this exactly.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The stretch of that BC Classic will not be on his highlight reel. The fact that he more or less rooted her home and barely gave the winner any mention is probably the biggest faux pas an announcer can commit.

Yes, the millions and millions who were listening to the race on the Radio were upset.

Denman said his most upsetting race he had ever called was Zenyatta losing in that race. What you heard wasnt a faux pas, it was human emotion.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The stretch of that BC Classic will not be on his highlight reel. The fact that he more or less rooted her home and barely gave the winner any mention is probably the biggest faux pas an announcer can commit.

99% of the people watching that broadcast were as well. I don't understand this at all, when I watch the last Olympics didnt you think Dan Hicks was rooting for Micheal Phelps in his call in some of those close races? I am sure on some swimming board someone was critical but the rest of the people would not have seen it strange at all.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

Yes, the millions and millions who were listening to the race on the Radio were upset.

Denman said his most upsetting race he had ever called was Zenyatta losing in that race. What you heard wasnt a faux pas, it was human emotion.

There's a way to accurately and fairly convey emotion, even negative feelings in a race call. The 2004 Belmont is a perfect example of that. The 2010 BC Classic is the definition of how not to do it.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The stretch of that BC Classic will not be on his highlight reel. The fact that he more or less rooted her home and barely gave the winner any mention is probably the biggest faux pas an announcer can commit.

Respectfully (and with lots of it too! ) I think it's really easy, years after the fact and not having been the one in the announcers booth, to forget that he's just a person. You know? It's not like they get to do it over.

Could you be at the BC watching the Classic go off and call it simultaneously?

Again, what 10 Point said. She was (not the only one, but...) the star of the day.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

There's a way to accurately and fairly convey emotion, even negative feelings in a race call. The 2004 Belmont is a perfect example of that. The 2010 BC Classic is the definition of how not to do it.

Is there a book on how to do that?

Seriously, that statement is absurd. There is no right or wrong method. People convey emotion in their own way. It is the way he chose to do it and you did not like it. Agreed?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

99% of the people watching that broadcast were as well. I don't understand this at all, when I watch the last Olympics didnt you think Dan Hicks was rooting for Micheal Phelps in his call in some of those close races? I am sure on some swimming board someone was critical but the rest of the people would not have seen it strange at all.

I think 99% of the people watching were focused on her jockey ruining the race for her.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

Is there a book on how to do that?

Seriously, that statement is absurd. There is no right or wrong method. People convey emotion in their own way. It is the way he chose to do it and you did not like it. Agreed?

Yeah, it's called "How to not be a blatant homer in a field that requires impartiality."

The whole thread is about opinion. I think Trevor Denman is an outstanding announcer and will be remembered fondly when he has the graceful exit Durkin is taking. That call, however, was terrible in my opinion.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

There's a way to accurately and fairly convey emotion, even negative feelings in a race call. The 2004 Belmont is a perfect example of that. The 2010 BC Classic is the definition of how not to do it.

How many Smarty Jones races did he call before that one? Over how many years? And I thought there was plenty of let down in his call when the horse was being caught.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I think 99% of the people watching were focused on her jockey ruining the race for her.

agree, horse never would have lost with a better rider that day. Glad you agree it was not the horse.

[TouchOfGrey]

Tom Durkin: Erudite influences behind a celebrated voice

A picture might be worth a thousand words, but if those words are coming from Tom Durkin, they command a far higher price.

Soporific. Obstreperous. Oracular. The kind of words that used to be called $10 words, SAT words, the kind of words that might get you a bemused look if you use them in conversation.

But when they come from the mouth of Tom Durkin, during an extemporaneous race call for which one can prepare only so much, the result is admiration, not confusion.

[Kitan]

Denman used to be great, but now his overplayed catchphrases are really annoying. If you listen to South African racecallers, some have very similar styles. What set Denman aside previously was that he had become more original and had his own style. Now, it seems like he relies more on annoying sayings rather than ability. If I hear "they would need to sprout wings to get to ______ today"...

But again, as others have mentioned, we all have our own opinion on what is good and bad, or what we like or don't like. I do agree that the Belmont in '04 is a much better example of how to call a champion getting beat. However, for me this is the standard for how to impartially call a national hero losing while keeping the race caller etiquette. Unlike Blame/Zenyatta, this was interjected with excitement and spine-tingling.

http://youtu.be/CTHZrdyta5o

[Benny]

Originally Posted by Kitan

Denman used to be great, but now his overplayed catchphrases are really annoying. If you listen to South African racecallers, some have very similar styles. What set Denman aside previously was that he had become more original and had his own style. Now, it seems like he relies more on annoying sayings rather than ability. If I hear "they would need to sprout wings to get to ______ today".

I tend to agree !

UOTE=Benny;992955]How about, "they'd need to sprout wings ? " Hand me the barf bag. Then he stole a line from Johnston at CD , "the more they asked, the more she gave"

Who waits to mute Denman, who names every horse entering the gate. The man is on permanent mute. His catch phrases are redundant. Oh, and his job as shill for the Pick 6 bet $$$ totals and potential carryovers, guestimating how much the carryover will be too.
The only reason the sound is left on is to get a bet down before the start, then mute. Meh.[/quote]

[Revidere]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

agree, horse never would have lost with a better rider that day. Glad you agree it was not the horse.

I think you both need your heads examined if you think Mike Smith lost that race.