Typical of this administration, 288k new jobs in June

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You misunderstood my question. I agree with you that most corporations are about the bottom line and maximizing profits. Right now it is more profitable for them to have their factories overseas. My question is whether there could be anything done that would make it more profitable for them to keep their companies here. When I mentioned a tax break, I meant that it would only be under the condition that the company have their factory here, and not overseas.

we still are the number one manufacturing country, but too much has gone to automation.
the paper mill still runs lights out here in this town, with a fraction of its former workforce.
they even have robot fork trucks to go with the robot trailers that move product around...along with robots that package, box, palletize, etc, etc.

we have corporations who love capitalism, and people who support rampant capitalism, and all it's done is made a lot of people obsolete. and then we blame the people for not working-when in fact there's no jobs for them. because they're either done by machine now, or gone overseas. and the top tier of the companies make loads more than ever before, while what workers remain get paid squat.

[joeydb]

Wait until the hamburger-flipping robot comes out. Unemployment will really spike.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Wait until the hamburger-flipping robot comes out. Unemployment will really spike.

funny, but sad, because it's getting to that.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

funny, but sad, because it's getting to that.

It will happen - and there is a legitimate discussion to be had about technology vs. traditional employment, and that would have happened anyway. But we are losing jobs to other countries without the automation as well, simply where the labor is cheap. A shirt made in Bangladesh isn't being made by robots - it's people sewing them but willing to do so for a lot cheaper than Americans can.

Remember the 1980's when a major news story was the decrease and disappearance of textile jobs in the south? That's a long time ago. There are very few of those jobs left compared to what we had.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

It will happen - and there is a legitimate discussion to be had about technology vs. traditional employment, and that would have happened anyway. But we are losing jobs to other countries without the automation as well, simply where the labor is cheap. A shirt made in Bangladesh isn't being made by robots - it's people sewing them but willing to do so for a lot cheaper than Americans can.

Remember the 1980's when a major news story was the decrease and disappearance of textile jobs in the south? That's a long time ago. There are very few of those jobs left compared to what we had.

Used to be a time when you could educate yourself and move to a white collar job. Not anymore. We are headed towards completely outsourced companies

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Used to be a time when you could educate yourself and move to a white collar job. Not anymore. We are headed towards completely outsourced companies

nope. more people going to college than ever, and nothing to show for it.

i'd recommend anyone looking for a field to get into medical.

it's a shame tho that corporations are just looking at how to make every last dollar, while ruining the ability of their customers to continue to make purchases.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

nope. more people going to college than ever, and nothing to show for it.

i'd recommend anyone looking for a field to get into medical.

it's a shame tho that corporations are just looking at how to make every last dollar, while ruining the ability of their customers to continue to make purchases.

One would think that both effects you describe are self-correcting market forces. If people are not getting anything to show for college, less of them will go and the price for college will come down. If people can't buy goods, the profits for those companies will decrease, resulting in pressure to lower the price or do something different in their processes of manufacturing...