Typical of this administration, 288k new jobs in June

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Do you think there would be any way to incentivize corporations to build their factories here instead of overseas or to even close their factories overseas and re-open them here? If so, would you be in favor of trying to do that?

Even if the government had to give these companies huge tax breaks, it still may be worth it to the government's bottom line. With all the extra jobs that would be created here, there would be more people paying taxes and less people needing government benefits.

What in the last 25 years gives you an iota of evidence that given more money corporations will use it for anything other than lining the pockets of execs? Seriously Rupe your ideology is from a time long past or you are willfully ignorant of the current state of events. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say it is the former.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by jms62

What in the last 25 years gives you an iota of evidence that given more money corporations will use it for anything other than lining the pockets of execs? Seriously Rupe your ideology is from a time long past or you are willfully ignorant of the current state of events. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say it is the former.

You misunderstood my question. I agree with you that most corporations are about the bottom line and maximizing profits. Right now it is more profitable for them to have their factories overseas. My question is whether there could be anything done that would make it more profitable for them to keep their companies here. When I mentioned a tax break, I meant that it would only be under the condition that the company have their factory here, and not overseas.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You misunderstood my question. I agree with you that most corporations are about the bottom line and maximizing profits. Right now it is more profitable for them to have their factories overseas. My question is whether there could be anything done that would make it more profitable for them to keep their companies here. When I mentioned a tax break, I meant that it would only be under the condition that the company have their factory here, and not overseas.

I suppose if we completely eliminate the minimum wage, unemployment benefits, allow unlimited H1B's, eliminate the FDA and EPA, eliminate welfare benefits and allow people to sell their children into slavery we can be competitive with China and India. In short I would trust a meth addicted degenerate gambler at Hawthorne to pay me back the 100 bucks he is asking for than corporate America to do what is right for the future of the country with any bribe money given them.

[geeker2]

Looks like the sky may not be falling after all.....eventually it all about economics and certainty.

http://worldtonyc.com/us-manufacturing-making-comeback/

[jms62]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Looks like the sky may not be falling after all.....eventually it all about economics and certainty.

http://worldtonyc.com/us-manufacturing-making-comeback/

Awesome!!! I'm glad W2NYC is on the case and telling it like it is while the associated press is totally dropping the ball

http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/b...n-worker-visas



The sky is not falling Geeker, it already fell and crushed the middle class. Can I ask if you are retired/semi retired and collecting a pension? Most folks in that age group see no problems at all cause they are still getting their pensions... For now that is. As far as "It's all about economics", the economics books have yet to be written on the long range detrimental effects of shipping buying power to the 3rd world.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by jms62

Awesome!!! I'm glad W2NYC is on the case and telling it like it is while the associated press is totally dropping the ball

http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/b...n-worker-visas



The sky is not falling Geeker, it already fell and crushed the middle class. Can I ask if you are retired/semi retired and collecting a pension? Most folks in that age group see no problems at all cause they are still getting their pensions... For now that is. As far as "It's all about economics", the economics books have yet to be written on the long range detrimental effects of shipping buying power to the 3rd world.

That is interesting. It shows that we have been bamboozled when they keep telling us that they need to bring in these workers because there is a shortage of skilled workers here. In reality, there doesn't appear to be much of a shortage. They just want cheaper labor.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That is interesting. It shows that we have been bamboozled when they keep telling us that they need to bring in these workers because there is a shortage of skilled workers here. In reality, there doesn't appear to be much of a shortage. They just want cheaper labor.

Dr. Matloff has been pounding the table on this topic for 20 years. Of course main stream media has ignored him. Could it be because media companies also enjoy using the cheap slave labor.

http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/h1b.html

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You misunderstood my question. I agree with you that most corporations are about the bottom line and maximizing profits. Right now it is more profitable for them to have their factories overseas. My question is whether there could be anything done that would make it more profitable for them to keep their companies here. When I mentioned a tax break, I meant that it would only be under the condition that the company have their factory here, and not overseas.

we still are the number one manufacturing country, but too much has gone to automation.
the paper mill still runs lights out here in this town, with a fraction of its former workforce.
they even have robot fork trucks to go with the robot trailers that move product around...along with robots that package, box, palletize, etc, etc.

we have corporations who love capitalism, and people who support rampant capitalism, and all it's done is made a lot of people obsolete. and then we blame the people for not working-when in fact there's no jobs for them. because they're either done by machine now, or gone overseas. and the top tier of the companies make loads more than ever before, while what workers remain get paid squat.

[joeydb]

Wait until the hamburger-flipping robot comes out. Unemployment will really spike.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Wait until the hamburger-flipping robot comes out. Unemployment will really spike.

funny, but sad, because it's getting to that.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

funny, but sad, because it's getting to that.

It will happen - and there is a legitimate discussion to be had about technology vs. traditional employment, and that would have happened anyway. But we are losing jobs to other countries without the automation as well, simply where the labor is cheap. A shirt made in Bangladesh isn't being made by robots - it's people sewing them but willing to do so for a lot cheaper than Americans can.

Remember the 1980's when a major news story was the decrease and disappearance of textile jobs in the south? That's a long time ago. There are very few of those jobs left compared to what we had.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

It will happen - and there is a legitimate discussion to be had about technology vs. traditional employment, and that would have happened anyway. But we are losing jobs to other countries without the automation as well, simply where the labor is cheap. A shirt made in Bangladesh isn't being made by robots - it's people sewing them but willing to do so for a lot cheaper than Americans can.

Remember the 1980's when a major news story was the decrease and disappearance of textile jobs in the south? That's a long time ago. There are very few of those jobs left compared to what we had.

Used to be a time when you could educate yourself and move to a white collar job. Not anymore. We are headed towards completely outsourced companies