Obama - "I will not apologize for the Bergdahl swap"

[GenuineRisk]

Once Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld apologize for Iraq, I'll start fretting about this. But nothing in Obama's Presidency will possibly approach that bone-headed cluster*ck of C-plus Augustus' ego trip that killed thousands of Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, exploded our debt, siphoned billions into the pockets of their friends and was just generally the single worst foreign policy decision since god knows when.

And yet they get a bye for that while Obama gets pilloried for cash for clunkers. Jesus wept.

[Danzig]

that's a really interesting theory, rudeboy.
and of course they won't say if that's what happened.

[Pants II]

Well...but Bush...

Oh wait...already used.


Ermm...racist!

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Danzig

that's a really interesting theory, rudeboy.
and of course they won't say if that's what happened.

Perhaps I've seen too many episodes of Homeland and 24

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Perhaps I've seen too many episodes of Homeland and 24

no, i really think you might have a plausible reason for it.

obama went over, there was a cover blown, and then this guy comes home.
coincidence? maybe.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Once Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld apologize for Iraq, I'll start fretting about this. But nothing in Obama's Presidency will possibly approach that bone-headed cluster*ck of C-plus Augustus' ego trip that killed thousands of Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, exploded our debt, siphoned billions into the pockets of their friends and was just generally the single worst foreign policy decision since god knows when.

And yet they get a bye for that while Obama gets pilloried for cash for clunkers. Jesus wept.

That's the spirit. Congratulations on completely missing the point.

No one defended Bush nor Cheney nor Rumsfeld; in fact all three should be hung for treason. No idea what that has to do with the current administration, or the 16 trillion dollars worth of boondoggles at ever turn, but good for you.

We get it - you are on Team Blue. So you get to ignore the egregious actions of your Team Bluetard leader, Because Team Redtard's guy was way worse in your eyes. Of course, Team Bluetard's guy was supposed to be the antithesis of Team Redtard's guy but, alas, is exactly the same. No matter, he's on Team Blue and not Team Red. That is all that matters.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Once Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld apologize for Iraq, I'll start fretting about this. But nothing in Obama's Presidency will possibly approach that bone-headed cluster*ck of C-plus Augustus' ego trip that killed thousands of Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, exploded our debt, siphoned billions into the pockets of their friends and was just generally the single worst foreign policy decision since god knows when.

And yet they get a bye for that while Obama gets pilloried for cash for clunkers. Jesus wept.

the previous administration absolutely sucked.
so does this one.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the previous administration absolutely sucked.
so does this one.

1. And So will the next one.
2 Go to Step 1

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

1. And So will the next one.
2 Go to Step 1

until some changes are made and the two big parties get knocked down a few pegs, i'm afraid you're right.

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the previous administration absolutely sucked.
so does this one.

You know i am having a frustrating week on a personal situation in my life and and will not waste too much time on threads like this one. BUT since i am already pissed off i have a couple of thoughts! The previous administration, were fuking liars and war mongering war criminals, who should have been behind bars years ago! But, out of respect for the office of the Presidency and not wanting to set a precedent of one administration going after another one this President chose not to pursue charges against his predecessor. I do not like that, i do not agree with that but i damn sure understand and respect that. The previous administration drove this country to the brink of financial ruin! This administration has taken bold steps to pull this country out of that mammoth crater! President Obama has accomplished a ton, in the face of the single largest, racist, anti-American, disgusting, vile and stone walling opposition in the history of the White House, period! Anyone, who doesn't believe that must have been living under a rock, blindfolded, with tape over their ears oh and are entitled to have MORONIC OPINIONS, it's a free country, but that is what they are MORONIC OPINIONS!
In terms of this prisoner swap, if what has been reported in terms of a proof of life video that showed this kid to be in poor health i am sure this is what moved the President to act so quickly to bring this kid home. Let them investigate when the kid is healthy, and if he's a deserter or traitor i am sure appropriate charges will be filed at a later date. In my opinion anyone of these right wing SCUMBAGS calling for this President to be impeached for bringing home an American POW is once again of a moronic opinion! Speaking of TRAITORS AND MORONS, i think the absolute LAST PERSON we need weighing in on this situation is OLLIE FUKING NORTH! BUT he has, this CONVICTED TRAITOR has got some SACK going on FIXED NEWS and opening his pie hole about this prisoner exchange, when he should be rotting himself in prison to this day and beyond!
This concludes my rant, i am going to take a BP pill now try to calm down and go back to capping! Nothing personal Ms. Danzig ya just caught me at a very bad time. Please continue amongst yourselves!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

You know i am having a frustrating week on a personal situation in my life and and will not waste too much time on threads like this one. BUT since i am already pissed off i have a couple of thoughts! The previous administration, were fuking liars and war mongering war criminals, who should have been behind bars years ago! But, out of respect for the office of the Presidency and not wanting to set a precedent of one administration going after another one this President chose not to pursue charges against his predecessor. I do not like that, i do not agree with that but i damn sure understand and respect that. The previous administration drove this country to the brink of financial ruin! This administration has taken bold steps to pull this country out of that mammoth crater! President Obama has accomplished a ton, in the face of the single largest, racist, anti-American, disgusting, vile and stone walling opposition in the history of the White House, period! Anyone, who doesn't believe that must have been living under a rock, blindfolded, with tape over their ears oh and are entitled to have MORONIC OPINIONS, it's a free country, but that is what they are MORONIC OPINIONS!
In terms of this prisoner swap, if what has been reported in terms of a proof of life video that showed this kid to be in poor health i am sure this is what moved the President to act so quickly to bring this kid home. Let them investigate when the kid is healthy, and if he's a deserter or traitor i am sure appropriate charges will be filed at a later date. In my opinion anyone of these right wing SCUMBAGS calling for this President to be impeached for bringing home an American POW is once again of a moronic opinion! Speaking of TRAITORS AND MORONS, i think the absolute LAST PERSON we need weighing in on this situation is OLLIE FUKING NORTH! BUT he has, this CONVICTED TRAITOR has got some SACK going on FIXED NEWS and opening his pie hole about this prisoner exchange, when he should be rotting himself in prison to this day and beyond!
This concludes my rant, i am going to take a BP pill now try to calm down and go back to capping! Nothing person Ms. Danzig ya just caught me at a very bad time. Please continue amongst yourselves!

agree with much of that.
and yes, obama has had opposition...but for the most part, things haven't changed since he took over. nor did i expect it to. as for the wars, drone strikes have stepped up, you have the nsa scandal, the patriot act being continued. obama has pretty much continued what was already started by the previous admin.
and i agree, talk of impeaching obama is ridiculous. it won't go anywhere.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

You know i am having a frustrating week on a personal situation in my life and and will not waste too much time on threads like this one. BUT since i am already pissed off i have a couple of thoughts! The previous administration, were fuking liars and war mongering war criminals, who should have been behind bars years ago! But, out of respect for the office of the Presidency and not wanting to set a precedent of one administration going after another one this President chose not to pursue charges against his predecessor. I do not like that, i do not agree with that but i damn sure understand and respect that. The previous administration drove this country to the brink of financial ruin! This administration has taken bold steps to pull this country out of that mammoth crater! President Obama has accomplished a ton, in the face of the single largest, racist, anti-American, disgusting, vile and stone walling opposition in the history of the White House, period! Anyone, who doesn't believe that must have been living under a rock, blindfolded, with tape over their ears oh and are entitled to have MORONIC OPINIONS, it's a free country, but that is what they are MORONIC OPINIONS!
In terms of this prisoner swap, if what has been reported in terms of a proof of life video that showed this kid to be in poor health i am sure this is what moved the President to act so quickly to bring this kid home. Let them investigate when the kid is healthy, and if he's a deserter or traitor i am sure appropriate charges will be filed at a later date. In my opinion anyone of these right wing SCUMBAGS calling for this President to be impeached for bringing home an American POW is once again of a moronic opinion! Speaking of TRAITORS AND MORONS, i think the absolute LAST PERSON we need weighing in on this situation is OLLIE FUKING NORTH! BUT he has, this CONVICTED TRAITOR has got some SACK going on FIXED NEWS and opening his pie hole about this prisoner exchange, when he should be rotting himself in prison to this day and beyond!
This concludes my rant, i am going to take a BP pill now try to calm down and go back to capping! Nothing person Ms. Danzig ya just caught me at a very bad time. Please continue amongst yourselves!

..Post of the year award...

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by bigrun

..Post of the year award...

.....NOT!!

I have a disdain for all politicians, but the politics of this president suggests his next move may be to send the troops after........AMERICANS. And not referring to rescuing POWs either.

I'm not sure how kowtowing to Islamic fundamentalist, bootlicking American killers, and bargaining with terrorists benefits Americans----the people who as an elected official he has sworn to serve and protect the interests of.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

.....NOT!!

I have a disdain for all politicians, but the politics of this president suggests his next move may be to send the troops after........AMERICANS. And not referring to rescuing POWs either.

I'm not sure how kowtowing to Islamic fundamentalist, bootlicking American killers, and bargaining with terrorists benefits Americans----the people who as an elected official he has sworn to serve and protect the interests of.

Bullcrap...let's play whatif...Obama turns down secret deal with Taliban for the release of an American soldier in exchange for 5 taliban captives at Gitmo citing price too high!..word gets out -it always does- do I need to tell you the reaction from the Fox talking out of their asz heads..or the total outrage from the rightwing nuts...OBAMA LEFT AN AMERICAN SOLDIER IN THE BATTLEFIELD...OUTRAGEOUS...IMPEACH HIS ASZ..
Let the full story play out and if he is a deserter throw his asz in the brig for life...if he's whacky and needs treatment give it to him..just don't sent him to the VA...and we'll let the drones take out those taliban guys..

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by bigrun

...and we'll let the drones take out those taliban guys..

Respectfully... will he be doing anything about ISIS?

Will he be doing anything about anything?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/15/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

.....NOT!!

I have a disdain for all politicians, but the politics of this president suggests his next move may be to send the troops after........AMERICANS. And not referring to rescuing POWs either.

I'm not sure how kowtowing to Islamic fundamentalist, bootlicking American killers, and bargaining with terrorists benefits Americans----the people who as an elected official he has sworn to serve and protect the interests of.

Hey at least the released terrorists will have a safe place to go - Iraq !

http://time.com/2859454/iraq-tikrit-isis-baghdad-mosul/

[jms62]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Hey at least the released terrorists will have a safe place to go - Iraq !

http://time.com/2859454/iraq-tikrit-isis-baghdad-mosul/

Now that was a Trillion dollars well spent. Mission accomplished.

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Hey at least the released terrorists will have a safe place to go - Iraq !

http://time.com/2859454/iraq-tikrit-isis-baghdad-mosul/

It would be awesome to safely vacay in Qatar and Iraq. I would even kinda fit in. (I'm half Lebanese) I would just need to learn arabic and make sure no one knew I was American.

Jim is right, party politics aren't going to solve this. Having any regard for what the spin machines say or do wont either. Someone is going to have do something DECISIVE for a change and fix this. Obama said he was going to fix this, and here we are 6 years later and all this administration is doing is helping the proliferation of the enemy of our peace. The previous administrations money motives fostered what should be an inexcuseable relationship with Saudi Arabia and Dubai. In this great liberal Obama era "TOLERANCE" is what is in style right now. I guess that means tolerance of terrorist as well.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Once Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld apologize for Iraq, I'll start fretting about this. But nothing in Obama's Presidency will possibly approach that bone-headed cluster*ck of C-plus Augustus' ego trip that killed thousands of Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, exploded our debt, siphoned billions into the pockets of their friends and was just generally the single worst foreign policy decision since god knows when.

And yet they get a bye for that while Obama gets pilloried for cash for clunkers. Jesus wept.

This is the exact type of view that will keep the American people from taking back the power and demanding more than the status quo.

"Your guy was bad so it doesn't matter that my guy is just as bad".

It's always a race or competition on who is right, instead of what is right. This isn't a football game or horse race, people!