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04-27-2014, 10:45 AM
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what boycott? i hope peta gets no coverage. last few years i've dvr'd the race, and then speed thru all the fluff (which i assume this year is tara lipinski?-and here i was cheering michelle beadle not being on, i was hoping for jeanine edwards!) to the post parade and the race. the rest of it is mostly garbage. i'd rather they gave detailed info on the horses then the bs human interest stories. who watches the derby for the people? it's a horse race!
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04-27-2014, 11:18 AM
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The one that saw Churchill all sources handle UP almost 7% on 10 races despite going against last year when they ran 11.
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04-27-2014, 12:18 PM
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I love the honesty of these answers... that not everyone knew about the boycott ("what boycott?" was my answer when someone asked me) or ran to google things or that, when they did, they flat out posted it.
I'm usually at the track for Derby day but won't be this time around so will probably join a lot of you with the mute button BUT I will use it for the guy with the (I want to say kabuki but I suppose it's actually) geisha make up and the eye of Sauron (God did he find a proper colorist yet cause that dye job at the Olympics was tragic). I hate the stupid fluff too but I like the idea of having these two (Johnny and Tara). I mean the fashion, etc., is going to get coverage... it's not like we get any information at all from NBC so sure... why not. It's a change and no one can be worse than that awful Michelle (whatever her name was) so I will check them out for a few and hope that they add some freshness to the broadcast. Lastly I'm afraid some of you might be underestimating the reach PETA has so fingers crossed he-who-shall-not-be-named doesn't win a God damned thing cause, if he does, it will be VERY bad for the next five weeks. They will be relentless and sorry but it might continue to be the kick in the pants out sport needs to address certain issues so I will halfway be rooing for them. We can be angry, roll out eyes, pretend they have no power, point out what hypocrites they are, etc., OR we can take this opportunity to make things right... to begin to anyway. In saying I will halfway root for them it's because I love the sport. Quote:
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04-27-2014, 03:39 PM
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04-27-2014, 04:43 PM
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What I'm dismissive of are those that have no clue what optimal pricing may actually be, yet promote actions that are more detrimental to the health of the game than the price increase itself. Are high takeouts odious and a negative, inhibiting factor to the growth and health of the game? Of course. No one is questioning that. But if you keep working to convince inexperienced players that they don't win just because of any takeouts regardless of the number or circumstance, you're guaranteeing they have an excuse to not play and give up. Pricing in racing is like pricing anywhere. Shop and find the price that's acceptable to you. Horseplayers boycott tracks every day simply by choosing what card they find most attractive to play and spending their money against it.
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04-27-2014, 06:15 PM
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I do more to attract new fans by throwing an annual derby party then the powers that be do year to year
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04-27-2014, 07:24 PM
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(1) Lipinski/Weir did excellent job during Sochi Olympics. Also, very engaging & interesting duo on talk show circuit. Just as NBC recognized female demographic using its Bravo channel for previous Oaks broadcast, this further taps broadening audience which includes more than aging males.
(2) Boycott will likely have little or no traction this weekend. This is an event that attracts more 'dumb' money than any other sporting event held in US. (3) NBC knows how to sell 'soap'. Oaks focus will remain breast cancer awareness & research. PETA may get 90-120 second segment presented as 'hard news'. When do windows open?
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04-28-2014, 10:44 AM
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I don't understand the Weir/Lapinski angle, I guess if they had Gary Stevens Cover Ice Skating? Having said that, I have NEVER been home for the Derby, so coverage doesn't matter to me. I used to tape then DVR the day though, and it irritated me not showing the Woodford Reserve.
I don't understand Boycotts. I'm not a fan of the CDI folks at present, but this too shall pass. So if you like a race, you want to bet, you're going to bet. I don't think wagering will be affected Derby Weekend. Did Peta have an affect in 2008 after Eight Belles? Most people won't care, depends on what NBC does if they show any of that.
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04-28-2014, 11:33 AM
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They might throw in a line about a few protesters and that will be it. It's the other news organizations that will jump on it, and rightfully so, if he wins.
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04-28-2014, 12:59 PM
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