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Old 02-23-2014, 08:23 PM
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There were other breakdowns that week by the way.
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:48 PM
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There were other breakdowns that week by the way.
Yeah Cecil Borel had one pull up on Tuesday.

Wed, Thursday, and Friday had none.
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:53 PM
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Yeah Cecil Borel had one pull up on Tuesday.

Wed, Thursday, and Friday had none.
In the morning too? That's not what I remember....but we are talking 15 years ago. Maybe you have CDI stock. God bless if you want to defend the indefensible.
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:59 PM
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In the morning too? That's not what I remember....but we are talking 15 years ago. Maybe you have CDI stock. God bless if you want to defend the indefensible.
I'm not defending anything. Just pointing out the inaccuracies in your story.

Let's just say that I'm sure that my experience training over the CD surface for a number of years including those in question give me a pretty comfortable grasp on the topic.

Churchill's track surface was damn good to train and race over.
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:03 PM
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I'm not defending anything. Just pointing out the inaccuracies in your story.

Let's just say that I'm sure that my experience training over the CD surface for a number of years including those in question give me a pretty comfortable grasp on the topic.

Churchill's track surface was damn good to train and race over.
Right. How many track records that Saturday. 3, 4? More. Weren't like 3 yr old fillies setting track records...I wasn't questioning the surface the rest of your training career, that isn't the point. I'm glad they have never done it again, which shows they sure as hell did it that week.
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:14 PM
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Right. How many track records that Saturday. 3, 4? More. Weren't like 3 yr old fillies setting track records...I wasn't questioning the surface the rest of your training career, that isn't the point. I'm glad they have never done it again, which shows they sure as hell did it that week.
Fast doesnt mean unsafe. Slow doesnt mean safe.

The point is that you made a statement that the track being extremely fast that day was detrimental to the horses health that ran over it that day which just isnt true.

I'd take that days track surface over what Monmouth had this past Haskell day anytime.
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:33 PM
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Just a fluke I guess. If pavement is safe, then that is what we should race on Chuck. In the meantime, I've wasted far too much of my evening on this conversation.

"Someone with Churchill Downs management should have a serious sit-down with track superintendent Butch Lehr. I'll take Lehr at his word that nothing was done to purposely speed up the track for Derby Day, but the rapid times of the races were, in a word, ridiculous."

Read more on BloodHorse.com: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz2uCdYO9O1
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