Del Mar... NO MORE POLYTRACK

[pmayjr]

When Joha wins the Canadian this weekend, it'll be worth more

Ateam,

When horses ship to Keeneland from Presque Isle, Turfway, Arlington, Woodbine, SoCal they have proven form over synthetic surfaces so I don't see that as randomness. When a horse ships in to Del Mar having proven success st Hollywood or GG, there's not much randomness there. The randomness at Keeneland, Del Mar, and Saratoga isn't the surface, its you have quality horses coming from all points to make the fields wide open

Once again don't mistake what I'm saying as being a total apologist for the surface, but there's room for both in US racing. And the safety numbers? They seem to back up synths

[randallscott35]

But the Canadian is on a real surface, not Poly...Poly is similar to betting on horses swimming. We just need a big pool. RH10 could be the skimmer.

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

But the Canadian is on a real surface, not Poly...Poly is similar to betting on horses swimming. We just need a big pool. RH10 could be the skimmer.

you admitted just a few posts ago that you bet on horses swimming all the time. Must be due to the "randomness"

[pmayjr]

All I'm saying is, you guys act like Del Mar is getting rid of the black plague it once had, and horse racing is slowly eradicating it. There are a lot bigger issues with the sport, and I think the one with synth tracks is uber overblown. C'mon ATeam, when Keeneland starts up in April, let's go in on some picks you know you're gonna play it as hard as anywhere else you play.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

All I'm saying is, you guys act like Del Mar is getting rid of the black plague it once had, and horse racing is slowly eradicating it. There are a lot bigger issues with the sport, and I think the one with synth tracks is uber overblown. C'mon ATeam, when Keeneland starts up in April, let's go in on some picks you know you're gonna play it as hard as anywhere else you play.

Nah, I'm not. If there's one thing that gives me success, it's discerning between good betting opportunities and lousy ones. Until KEE goes back to dirt at least half their races are bad bets generally.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

All I'm saying is, you guys act like Del Mar is getting rid of the black plague it once had, and horse racing is slowly eradicating it. There are a lot bigger issues with the sport, and I think the one with synth tracks is uber overblown. C'mon ATeam, when Keeneland starts up in April, let's go in on some picks you know you're gonna play it as hard as anywhere else you play.

I dont believe people consider synthetic surfaces an issue, just an annoyance. I'm sure that expense is the chief reason that Del Mar is returning to dirt since they admit that their track needs to be overhauled. The fact that most racing people prefer dirt probably makes the decision even easier

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

you admitted just a few posts ago that you bet on horses swimming all the time. Must be due to the "randomness"

Yes. It's a problem. I agree. Thankfully I will have more dirt in my future

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

When Joha wins the Canadian this weekend, it'll be worth more

Ateam,

When horses ship to Keeneland from Presque Isle, Turfway, Arlington, Woodbine, SoCal they have proven form over synthetic surfaces so I don't see that as randomness. When a horse ships in to Del Mar having proven success st Hollywood or GG, there's not much randomness there. The randomness at Keeneland, Del Mar, and Saratoga isn't the surface, its you have quality horses coming from all points to make the fields wide open

Once again don't mistake what I'm saying as being a total apologist for the surface, but there's room for both in US racing. And the safety numbers? They seem to back up synths

You're really comparing Keeneland's polytrack and the absurdity it produces to Saratoga? Come on. It's not because of the shippers, it's because that track is different than pretty much anything the shippers run on. There's no equation between one synth track to the next.

[pmayjr]

umm yeah I am. Boutique meets have big fields and wide open races because horses ship in from all over. It'll be true for Keeneland whether they have dirt or synth.

And some synth tracks act differently than others, but I'm still gonna take a horse in a synth race that has synth success at any other track over one that doesn't. The results do seem to carry over to different tracks. That's why the past few years you've seen Presque Isle shippers do very well at Keeneland. They have a proven record over another synthetic track.