Del Mar... NO MORE POLYTRACK

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He wasnt a breeding mistake was he?

I meant horses bred based on synthetic success. So yes if he waters down the breed it becomes a mistake

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I meant horses bred based on synthetic success. So yes if he waters down the breed it becomes a mistake

It was a cheap attempt at patting myself on the back however there is no such thing as "watering the breed down" when it is contracting at a rapid rate. Being that both sides of his pedigree are distinctly grass influenced and he is not exactly by a well regarded or popular sire of sires I'm sure his impact on the breed will be minimal.

[Cannon Shell]

Anyway the debate is now over because Bill Finley has weighed in with a typically arrogant Op-ed piece in TDN that mocks those who are not upset about the demise of synthetic tracks. Being that Finley is almost always wrong in a way that makes PG1985 look like Nostradamus we can now move on with our lives.

I think the track is unfrozen to the point that I actually have to do some work...

[randallscott35]

It adds up. A horse like pioneer of the Nile should only be seeing my tool shed these days. Slopped up slow derby second and marginal shredded tire running success. Maybe pony rides.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

It adds up. A horse like pioneer of the Nile should only be seeing my tool shed these days. Slopped up slow derby second and marginal shredded tire running success. Maybe pony rides.

Uh didnt Pioneer of the Nile just sire 2 Derby prep winners on the dirt?

Breeding is about genetics, not track surface, not medication. A horse by a "turf sire" or out of a "dirt" mare is more likely to share the physical attributes that their parents had which will drive their ability to preform on certain surfaces but as evidenced in a million cases, it doesn't limit them to success solely on that particular surface.

[randallscott35]

Yes. They can all throw something that can outperform on a given surface. See boundary and big brown. Still think syn form is useless for breeding purposes

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yes. They can all throw something that can outperform on a given surface. See boundary and big brown. Still think syn form is useless for breeding purposes

Is European form useless as well because they often run the wrong way on waterlogged bogs which is as foreign to American horses as synthetic surfaces?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Is European form useless as well because they often run the wrong way on waterlogged bogs which is as foreign to American horses as synthetic surfaces?

Turf is a real surface. Always has been. Now you are arguing for the sake of it.