Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Sports Bar & Grill
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-18-2014, 12:25 AM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Mvp Mvp Mvp.
__________________
@TimeformUSfigs
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-18-2014, 08:17 AM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
Mvp Mvp Mvp.
Starting to seem pretty likely. Lebron would have to have a huge stretch or do the 60-40 thing.
Step Curry is a beast too. I know you guys don't like GS as much as me, but if they could get anything from Barnes. I'm still sticking with them to come out, but its gonna be tough.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-18-2014, 08:38 AM
Duvalier's Avatar
Duvalier Duvalier is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,330
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
Mvp Mvp Mvp.
He'll be in OKC on Tuesday
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-18-2014, 12:12 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvalier View Post
He'll be in OKC on Tuesday
Of course he will, he lives here. Aldridge is a fine player, but come on...he isn't in the same class as KD right now. Lebron is still the better player, but he is coasting.
__________________
@TimeformUSfigs
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-18-2014, 12:35 PM
Duvalier's Avatar
Duvalier Duvalier is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,330
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
Of course he will, he lives here. Aldridge is a fine player, but come on...he isn't in the same class as KD right now. Lebron is still the better player, but he is coasting.
I was only messing with you. It's a two horse race.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-18-2014, 01:21 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvalier View Post
I was only messing with you. It's a two horse race.
I figured. I am a fan of Aldridge, really stepped it up this year...not to mention he caused Pop to get himself ejected last night!
__________________
@TimeformUSfigs
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-18-2014, 01:44 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
Of course he will, he lives here. Aldridge is a fine player, but come on...he isn't in the same class as KD right now. Lebron is still the better player, but he is coasting.
Durant will get his. Lebron is 29, Durant is 25. In 4 years it will be KD's turn and he will have every chance to win a few. Bye then Lebron will be 33 and will have literally played an insane amount of ball. Deep playoff runs every year, Olympics, etc.
Maybe the two of them even hook up. Because Lebron not selfish he seems like he will age very well. I can see Lebron doing 20 7 and 7 at 37 years old.

Last edited by RockHardTen1985 : 01-18-2014 at 02:10 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-18-2014, 01:55 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
Durant will get his. Lebron is 29, Durant is 25. In 4 years it will be KD's turn and he will have every chance to win a few. Bye then Lebron will be 33 and will have literally played an insane amount of ball. Deep playoff runs every year, Olympics, etc.
Maybe the two of them even hook up. Because Lebros not selfish he seems like he will age very well. I can see Lebrom doing 20 7 and 7 at 37 years old.
Pretty sure he is the frontrunner for MVP right now, why does he have to wait four years?
__________________
@TimeformUSfigs
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-18-2014, 01:58 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
Pretty sure he is the frontrunner for MVP right now, why does he have to wait four years?
Right now he's clear cut. I'm talking about a Championship.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-18-2014, 08:51 AM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
Mvp Mvp Mvp.
What's you're thoughts on Reggie Jackson?? Seeing full games 3x lately, I'm not a fan.
Maybe that's why Brooks plays Fischer??
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-18-2014, 12:13 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
What's you're thoughts on Reggie Jackson?? Seeing full games 3x lately, I'm not a fan.
Maybe that's why Brooks plays Fischer??
Reggie is decent, but he was better suited to the 6th man role than a starting point guard. He has played a lot better the last couple. One thing is for sure, he has saved the Thunder a lot of money on his new contract.
__________________
@TimeformUSfigs
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-18-2014, 02:36 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
Reggie is decent, but he was better suited to the 6th man role than a starting point guard. He has played a lot better the last couple. One thing is for sure, he has saved the Thunder a lot of money on his new contract.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...s-jackson-five

"In the ten games since Jackson has assumed starting duties, not one of his 10 matches has shot better than 50% from the field and only one shot better than 40%."
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-18-2014, 04:13 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...s-jackson-five

"In the ten games since Jackson has assumed starting duties, not one of his 10 matches has shot better than 50% from the field and only one shot better than 40%."
Are you saying he has played good defense? Because Scott Brooks would STRONGLY disagree. He has been benched for more than once in games lately. The Thunder don't really play man on man, they switch everything. They don't double. Jackson has not been doing what he is supposed to do out there.
__________________
@TimeformUSfigs
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-18-2014, 05:17 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
Are you saying he has played good defense? Because Scott Brooks would STRONGLY disagree. He has been benched for more than once in games lately. The Thunder don't really play man on man, they switch everything. They don't double. Jackson has not been doing what he is supposed to do out there.
He like to shot and he turns the ball over. Like I said I watched two full Thunder games this week. More then once I have watched KD loudly clap for the ball and be visually upset. This being while Jackson is dribbling, basically ignores Durant and throws something wild up.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-18-2014, 07:10 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

2 of the other 3 top NBA players having big games early tonight. Saw Durant and want to go off. Ones a total beat down so I doubt the #'s get that big....
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-19-2014, 01:09 AM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
He like to shot and he turns the ball over. Like I said I watched two full Thunder games this week. More then once I have watched KD loudly clap for the ball and be visually upset. This being while Jackson is dribbling, basically ignores Durant and throws something wild up.
oh ok. He must suck then because no good player ever has a bad game and Durant has never played with another player that ignores him and takes a bad shot...
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-19-2014, 01:49 AM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
He like to shot and he turns the ball over. Like I said I watched two full Thunder games this week. More then once I have watched KD loudly clap for the ball and be visually upset. This being while Jackson is dribbling, basically ignores Durant and throws something wild up.
Assuming that the two games you saw this week were against Houston and Golden State.
Jackson's combined line from those 2 games
37 points
17-32 FG's (55%)
15-22 on 2 point shots (68%)
1-1 FT's
4 reb
10 assists
9 steals
5 turnovers
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-19-2014, 01:15 AM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
Are you saying he has played good defense? Because Scott Brooks would STRONGLY disagree. He has been benched for more than once in games lately. The Thunder don't really play man on man, they switch everything. They don't double. Jackson has not been doing what he is supposed to do out there.
The numbers are pretty clear. I'm not sure what else to say?

I'm absolutely confounded by your man to man and switching statement. What does that mean? You think that Jackson's guy has just been the victim of an unusual number of switches, not good defense? Do other NBA teams not switch? Is the switch not an absolute tenant of man to man defense anymore? If Jackson is so bad or isnt doing what he is supposed to why has his unit given up so few points, even better than Westbrook's unit?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-19-2014, 12:26 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
The numbers are pretty clear. I'm not sure what else to say?

I'm absolutely confounded by your man to man and switching statement. What does that mean? You think that Jackson's guy has just been the victim of an unusual number of switches, not good defense? Do other NBA teams not switch? Is the switch not an absolute tenant of man to man defense anymore? If Jackson is so bad or isnt doing what he is supposed to why has his unit given up so few points, even better than Westbrook's unit?
The Thunder play very good team defense. Maybe you should write Scott Brooks, you seem to think you know more than him about Jackson's D. They play a lot slower with Jackson than they do with Westbrook. Surely you realize that, right? That kind of changes how many points they give up.

By the way, the Thunder are one of the top users of these analytics you reference. They've been using them a long time.
__________________
@TimeformUSfigs
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01-19-2014, 10:11 AM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
Are you saying he has played good defense? Because Scott Brooks would STRONGLY disagree. He has been benched for more than once in games lately. The Thunder don't really play man on man, they switch everything. They don't double. Jackson has not been doing what he is supposed to do out there.
So I found the article that talks about how opposing guards have "torched" Jackson using examples by name of the following guys.

Rubio was 4-13
Lawson was 7-16
Kemba Walker 6-17
Lillard 6-15
Deron Williams 10-17

Combined 33 for 78
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:21 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.