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Old 12-03-2013, 04:33 PM
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I didn't realize you were specifying New York. I love visiting, but I would NEVER live there.
It isn't just New York. I live in Pittsburgh and tickets for the Steelers, Penguins, and Pirates have all gone up substantially while I think attendance in all three leagues has gone down.
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Old 12-03-2013, 04:57 PM
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It isn't just New York. I live in Pittsburgh and tickets for the Steelers, Penguins, and Pirates have all gone up substantially while I think attendance in all three leagues has gone down.
Like Doug said, there is a finite number of seats for pro sports. There is an actual demand in most cities. Those that aren't winning and have lots of empty seats don't raise prices that I have seen as a general rule. Even when a local team stinks, people often want to see the stars on the other teams.

There is no demand for clubhouse admission to Belmont, or any admission to Belmont. I could see if this were for days with G1 races, or something like that. But a Wednesday or Thursday afternoon to see five maiden races, a couple claiming races, and some bad statebreds? Come on. You probably won't find two people in the crowd those days that are there for the sporting aspect.
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:14 PM
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Between tolls and gas they should be paying you to come to Belmont on the weekdays.
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Old 12-03-2013, 06:15 PM
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The ticket price increase at Saratoga pales in comparison to the increase in the hotel rooms. This year during Travers week it was $285/nt, next year $360/nt.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:37 PM
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Between tolls and gas they should be paying you to come to Belmont on the weekdays.

Yeah Tolls is the problem.....they don't have them in other states.

30 years ago........pay $7.50 hour 12 pack of michelob $4.99 Saratoga admission $2

now $30/hour..............12 pack michelob $8.99 saratoga admission $3.00


Beer and Saratoga are the 2 biggest bargains in history.
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Old 12-06-2013, 08:17 PM
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Yeah Tolls is the problem.....they don't have them in other states.

30 years ago........pay $7.50 hour 12 pack of michelob $4.99 Saratoga admission $2

now $30/hour..............12 pack michelob $8.99 saratoga admission $3.00


Beer and Saratoga are the 2 biggest bargains in history.

since when?
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Old 12-07-2013, 07:40 AM
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since when?
this was sarcasm....tolls are everywhere.they are a good thing
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:38 AM
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this was sarcasm....tolls are everywhere.they are a good thing
gotcha. mea culpa
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Old 12-07-2013, 10:24 AM
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this was sarcasm...tolls are everywhere.they are a good thing
There aren't any here in SoCal...
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Old 12-11-2013, 02:25 PM
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Yeah Tolls is the problem.....they don't have them in other states.

30 years ago........pay $7.50 hour 12 pack of michelob $4.99 Saratoga admission $2

now $30/hour..............12 pack michelob $8.99 saratoga admission $3.00


Beer and Saratoga are the 2 biggest bargains in history.
.....damn, they still make that swill.
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Old 12-11-2013, 08:32 PM
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I know that the comparison with other sports has flaws but I dont think people realize how insanely expensive it is to go to sporting events.

TCI is a cost index using the following criteria:

Team Marketing Report uses “non-premium” season ticket pricing for its survey. That excludes club seats, suites and floor seats.

The Fan Cost Index (FCI) comprises the price of four average-price tickets, two cheapest beers, four cheapest soft drinks, four hot dogs, parking for one car, two game programs and two least-expensive, adult-size hats.

The average Fan Cost Index (FCI) number, the cost to take a family of four to an NBA game, is up 3.5 percent to $326.60.

The Knicks, which had a horrid start to the season in refurbished Madison Square Garden, lead the NBA in average ticket price ($123.22, a 4.9 percent increase) and FCI® price ($643.78).
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Old 12-11-2013, 09:43 PM
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I know that the comparison with other sports has flaws but I dont think people realize how insanely expensive it is to go to sporting events.

TCI is a cost index using the following criteria:

Team Marketing Report uses “non-premium” season ticket pricing for its survey. That excludes club seats, suites and floor seats.

The Fan Cost Index (FCI) comprises the price of four average-price tickets, two cheapest beers, four cheapest soft drinks, four hot dogs, parking for one car, two game programs and two least-expensive, adult-size hats.

The average Fan Cost Index (FCI) number, the cost to take a family of four to an NBA game, is up 3.5 percent to $326.60.

The Knicks, which had a horrid start to the season in refurbished Madison Square Garden, lead the NBA in average ticket price ($123.22, a 4.9 percent increase) and FCI® price ($643.78).
it's absolutely ridiculous what it costs to go see games. hockey is even starting to get up there, which is a shame. but right now, i still think it's worth it. unlike football, hockey is best watched live. i don't plan to go to another college or pro football game EVER-especially if it's televised. takes too long, fans are too rude, food is expensive-and tastes like garbage.
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:16 AM
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I know that the comparison with other sports has flaws but I dont think people realize how insanely expensive it is to go to sporting events.

TCI is a cost index using the following criteria:

Team Marketing Report uses “non-premium” season ticket pricing for its survey. That excludes club seats, suites and floor seats.

The Fan Cost Index (FCI) comprises the price of four average-price tickets, two cheapest beers, four cheapest soft drinks, four hot dogs, parking for one car, two game programs and two least-expensive, adult-size hats.

The average Fan Cost Index (FCI) number, the cost to take a family of four to an NBA game, is up 3.5 percent to $326.60.

The Knicks, which had a horrid start to the season in refurbished Madison Square Garden, lead the NBA in average ticket price ($123.22, a 4.9 percent increase) and FCI® price ($643.78).
It's a really bad comparison.. How much does it cost to go to a casino, and what are the costs of food and beverage in a casino is a much fairer comparison.

12/17 on the Inner in Ozone Park is hardly the mecca. How many days a year could Far Hills be successful without para mutual wagering... 4?
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Old 12-03-2013, 06:16 PM
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Like Doug said, there is a finite number of seats for pro sports. There is an actual demand in most cities. Those that aren't winning and have lots of empty seats don't raise prices that I have seen as a general rule. Even when a local team stinks, people often want to see the stars on the other teams.

There is no demand for clubhouse admission to Belmont, or any admission to Belmont. I could see if this were for days with G1 races, or something like that. But a Wednesday or Thursday afternoon to see five maiden races, a couple claiming races, and some bad statebreds? Come on. You probably won't find two people in the crowd those days that are there for the sporting aspect.
ticket prices also depend on the opponent. we're pricing hockey games, and caps vs boston is significantly higher priced then caps vs kings.
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Old 12-03-2013, 08:10 PM
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People still go to the track? And they pay? I can see why NYRA would think that they'd then be willing to pay even more.
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