welfare vs wages

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

An electrician, for example, who graduated high school and went to trade school and work his way up as an apprentice shouldn't have to pay 10.00 for a Big Mac just because the HS drop out fry cook needs to make the same living wage as he to support a family.

Actually, doubling the wages of every employee of all McDonald's (including the execs) would raise the price of a Big Mac to a little over $5.00:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3672006.html

And considering the calorie bombs that are Big Macs, that's more than enough food for a single meal. $5.00 for a lunch is not very expensive.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Actually, doubling the wages of every employee of all McDonald's (including the execs) would raise the price of a Big Mac to a little over $5.00:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3672006.html

And considering the calorie bombs that are Big Macs, that's more than enough food for a single meal. $5.00 for a lunch is not very expensive.

i saw video from a congressional hearing that said they'd have to raise the price of a burger .06 cents. wow.

so, we want people to work instead of having them on welfare. but when people work, they still have to get welfare, because their living wage isn't one.
we say they're uneducated-but evidence shows that's not the case. and even if it was, since we use these goods and services, there's a demand for people to fill these jobs-and then we can demand they make squat? so we don't pay much for a burger, but we pay taxes to pick up the slack?
meanwhile, we subsidize the farmers, the corporations, we give tax breaks, incentives, etc, etc ad nauseum to these corporations....so we subsidize then, and their workers, and we also buy their stuff.
yeah, makes sense.
i did my shift at the food pantry this evening, which is always a bit disheartening. me and another volunteer were talking about how we pay farmers not to grow food, while people go hungry.

[jms62]

McDonalds solution to their employees holiday struggles. Chutzpah part Deux.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...presents-cash/

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by jms62

McDonalds solution to their employees holiday struggles. Chutzpah part Deux.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...presents-cash/

"stop complaining, it raises your stress level"

wow!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

McDonalds solution to their employees holiday struggles. Chutzpah part Deux.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...presents-cash/

saw this link referenced:

http://gothamist.com/2013/10/24/mcdo...paid_worke.php


i am disgusted.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i saw video from a congressional hearing that said they'd have to raise the price of a burger .06 cents. wow.

Let's see, a crew of 10 workers at $3.00 more an hour in wages would be $30/hr. in new wages. Dividing $30 by .06 cents gives us 500. (50 burgers per worker)

So your 'video' is true only if the McDonalds in question is turning out 500 burgers per 10 workers as an average. 12K burgers in a 24hr period or 84K/week. 4.3 million per year!!

In other words don't believe everything you see/hear/read. Let me guess the above video came from a congressman/woman pushing a minimum wage increase? In fact it kind of sounds Wasserman/Schiltz like.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Let's see, a crew of 10 workers at $3.00 more an hour in wages would be $30/hr. in new wages. Dividing $30 by .06 cents gives us 500. (50 burgers per worker)

So your 'video' is true only if the McDonalds in question is turning out 500 burgers per 10 workers as an average. 12K burgers in a 24hr period or 84K/week. 4.3 million per year!!

In other words don't believe everything you see/hear/read. Let me guess the above video came from a congressman/woman pushing a minimum wage increase? In fact it kind of sounds Wasserman/Schiltz like.

Yes del they should STFU because somewhere in the world someone is willing to work for a quarter of that minimum wage and mcDonalds et all will continue lobbying efforts to get those people here to work.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

Yes del they should STFU .

How about presenting facts?

Hard to argue over fantasies as everyone has a different one.

Would .30 to .40 cents per burger instead of .06 cents ruined the argument?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

How about presenting facts?

Hard to argue over fantasies as everyone has a different one.

Would .30 to .40 cents per burger instead of .06 cents ruined the argument?

Let them raise prices, isn't that what capitalism is about setting prices that your customer is willing to pay? They raise them too much and someone will undercut them and eat their lunch so to speak. Why do all arguments forget this basic tenant when it comes to employees getting more money?

FYI
CEO make 8.75 million a year which by the way would take a line worker 114 years working 24x7 365 to equal. Maybe he can take a paycut.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Let them raise prices, isn't that what capitalism is about setting prices that your customer is willing to pay? They raise them too much and someone will undercut them and eat their lunch so to speak. Why do all arguments forget this basic tenant when it comes to employees getting more money?

FYI
CEO make 8.75 million a year which by the way would take a line worker 114 years working 24x7 365 to equal. Maybe he can take a paycut.

the article i just linked said over 12 million.
they made a four freaking BILLION dollar profit last year. it's horseshit that they can't afford to pay more.

i think we should remove their tax breaks and other incentives, etc that they receive to equal the amount of federal aid their employees receive.
the woman in the link above, has worked for mcd's ten years-not one raise in that entire time.