incognito=creep

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you need to try harder.

the miami line sucked. it still sucks. whatever there is to say about martin, incognito had no business saying those things in his text.
not sure how telling someone you're going to **** in his mouth, smack his mother, or kill him is going to 'toughen him up'. i'd say the result is what ought to be expected by rational human beings.

I dont think that you can read Incognitos one text and understand what kind of relationship that these two idiots had. Sure in a normal setting between normal people it looks bad. However this isnt a normal setting or normal people. Regardless the fact that Martin was looking more and more like a washout has to play a far bigger role in this story than has been reported.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont think that you can read Incognitos one text and understand what kind of relationship that these two idiots had. Sure in a normal setting between normal people it looks bad. However this isnt a normal setting or normal people. Regardless the fact that Martin was looking more and more like a washout has to play a far bigger role in this story than has been reported.

i don't care what type relationship they had. that text was reprehensible and i don't know how many good works could wipe it away.
incognito has been a thug for years, i'm surprised it took this long for him to get suspended.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't care what type relationship they had. that text was reprehensible and i don't know how many good works could wipe it away.
incognito has been a thug for years, i'm surprised it took this long for him to get suspended.

You dont care but everything has to be taken into context. So far the only conclusion that should be drawn is that Incognito is an idiot but there was plenty of evidence of that already. Martin is portrayed as a victim but he may be the boy who cried wolf.

[randallscott35]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/99...saga-overblown

[dellinger63]

People who interpret texts between 300lb behemoths as bullying have never been properly punched in the face.

Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/99...saga-overblown

If he had some emotional issues, he should've took that up with somebody upstairs and maybe we wouldn't have this situation right now," McKinnie said. "It could have been a more professional way to handle it instead of walking out on your team, because that's what you did at the end of the day."


so, a team member who was targeted by 'upstairs' should have gone upstairs to fix it.

right.

So, it's akin to reporting rape in the military where the victim's only recourse is to report it through the chain of command and, often enough, the perpretrator is a link in that chain of command.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

So, it's akin to reporting rape in the military where the victim's only recourse is to report it through the chain of command and, often enough, the perpretrator is a link in that chain of command.

damn women, don't belong in the military to begin with.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

So, it's akin to reporting rape in the military where the victim's only recourse is to report it through the chain of command and, often enough, the perpretrator is a link in that chain of command.

speaking of which...

http://www.upworthy.com/a-marine-was...rthy%29&c=slt1


'Our laws ask the military to do the impossible. It is impossible to expect justice in a legal system run primarily by commanders with no legitimate legal training, who have a vested interest in the outcome of their proceedings, and undeniable favoritisms and bias that are only human nature. But that is how America, unique among our allies, runs military justice. As long as that is the case, predators in the military will feel protected, victims will not come forward, and commanders will follow their natural instincts to disbelieve and crush accusations of their commands’ worst failures.

I was recently invited to speak with some of our nation’s most senior commanders at US Central Command. It was clear to me by their insightful discussion and time spent on the issue, they have good intentions. But it’s unfair to the Commanders that our government asks them to maintain discipline, yet puts them in a position which requires them to defy natural human bias in order to succeed. Indiscipline and injustice result.'