What did we learn...Pre BC?

blackthroatedwind · #1 09-30-2013, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Horses can struggle out of the gate on the AQU inner because of the consistency/nature of the surface, but it's not possible that the footing contributed to Cross Traffic's struggle?

I don't agree with ANY of this. There is no evidence whatsoever to back up your first assertion about the inner, and frankly, comments like that are irresponsible.

Jay Frederick · #2 09-30-2013, 11:12 PM

Going into the race I was more concerned that the connections decided to skip the Woodward with Cross Traffic. Why skip a race, over a surface you had just won at, if he was doing good?

Bad start and all, I think there is some merit to how cold he was on the board being a possible indication that he was not going to put forth his best.

Sightseek · #3 10-01-2013, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Frederick

Going into the race I was more concerned that the connections decided to skip the Woodward with Cross Traffic. Why skip a race, over a surface you had just won at, if he was doing good?

Bad start and all, I think there is some merit to how cold he was on the board being a possible indication that he was not going to put forth his best.

They took 3 months off between an excellent Met Mile and won the Whitney, giving this particular horse time between races has worked well.

Why waste the time trying to read between the lines when the horse didn't even get a fair chance to run his best? I will be more concerned on whether he will hold up to the pace pressure he will meet in the BCC than any idea that he was over the top because the 3 year olds took more money.

Jay Frederick · #4 10-01-2013, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

They took 3 months off between an excellent Met Mile and won the Whitney, giving this particular horse time between races has worked well.

Why waste the time trying to read between the lines when the horse didn't even get a fair chance to run his best? I will be more concerned on whether he will hold up to the pace pressure he will meet in the BCC than any idea that he was over the top because the 3 year olds took more money.

The time off between the Met Mile and Whitney was planned. He didn't even make it back to the track to work for almost a full month after the Met Mile. The decision to skip the Woodward was a last minute decision. There is a difference.

Alabama Stakes · #5 10-01-2013, 10:18 AM

the 2 year old fillies in the east are slow and will be nowhere in the BC

Sightseek · #6 10-01-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

the 2 year old fillies in the east are slow and will be nowhere in the BC

I would wait through the weekend before making that assumption...

I'll be using Palace Malice coming out of the JCGC, noting Welsh's workout reports since he is usually a fantastic worker.

I didn't hate Authenticity's last race -- just the trip she received. The field is looking very short for the Lady's Classic.

asudevil · #7 10-01-2013, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

I would wait through the weekend before making that assumption...

I'll be using Palace Malice coming out of the JCGC, noting Welsh's workout reports since he is usually a fantastic worker.

I didn't hate Authenticity's last race -- just the trip she received. The field is looking very short for the Lady's Classic.

Steve Haskin ‏@SteveHaskin
Despite getting beat 6 3/4 lengths in the JC Gold Cup, Palace Malice's time would have won the previous nine Gold Cups. #freakywinner