navy yard shooting

[Rudeboyelvis]

Just saying - it's a fact that should not be dismissed

http://www.behaviorismandmentalhealt...link-to-ssris/

Of course the pharmaceutical companies will never respond or investigate, they will keep paying off the legislature as it's more lucrative than actually finding out why and how to fix it.

Plus, it helps Obama's gun grabber's cause - rather than fix the drug, petition to have HIPPA changed so that a background check will reveal any instance where a potential buyer was ever prescribed a SSRI, then deny the sale.
Perfect!

[Danzig]

i think they need to investigate more.
were the people who were prescribed these drugs taking them as directed? how often do you hear of people who are in a physicians care, get 'better' and then quit taking their meds? and off the deep end they go.
it seems logical to think that people with psychiatric issues would be inclined to commit crimes like these-they're mentally ill. what would make sense would be to make sure these folks, who are under medical care for severe illness, would be unable to buy or obtain weapons. that way, if they stop taking meds, and go loony, they don't have a gun at hand.
why are we more concerned about their rights as a citizen, then in protecting us from them?
it used to be that if your ex stalked you, the cops did nothing til he actually did something. many times then it was too late. now, they don't wait. why can't we do similar for this?
if a guy 'hears voices' and says so, why don't we confiscate his weapons?
to say that the right to keep and bear shall not be infringed is a red herring, we already have rules for felons, etc. i think we need to extend those bans to people who are loony, violent, etc.
i mean, why in the world does george zimmerman still have guns? how many calls, investigations, restraining orders, etc, before we take them?

[GenuineRisk]

Meh, you don't need a mental illness to get involved in a shootout- road rage will do the trick:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3956491.html

As the article states, in order to get a concealed carry permit in Michigan, you can't have a felony conviction or a mental illness diagnosis.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

As the article states, in order to get a concealed carry permit in Michigan, you can't have a felony conviction or a mental illness diagnosis.

In Chicago (New Murder Capital of the Nation) well over 50% of those charged with murder involving a firearm HAVE a felony conviction.

Heck we had a drive-by of a park yesterday that wounded 13 people including a 3-year old, (who was out watching a basketball game at 10:30 at night!).

As they say in Chicago, "They'll be a hot time in the old town tonight, fire, fire, fire."

BTW Keep those three year olds inside tonight.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

In Chicago (New Murder Capital of the Nation) well over 50% of those charged with murder involving a firearm HAVE a felony conviction.

Heck we had a drive-by of a park yesterday that wounded 13 people including a 3-year old, (who was out watching a basketball game at 10:30 at night!).

As they say in Chicago, "They'll be a hot time in the old town tonight, fire, fire, fire."

BTW Keep those three year olds inside tonight.

I read about that shooting on Gawker- just awful.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I read about that shooting on Gawker- just awful.

The story behind the story reads like a Hollywood trailer. It all started last October when an aspiring rapper with gang ties to the Gangster Disciples named Keith Cozart (Chief Keef) was released from jail on gun charges,

A wanna-be rapper and rival gang member (Black P Stone Nation) named Lil JoJo (joseph Coleman) began taunting and 'dissing' Keef with videos of him driving into GD territory.

Lil JoJo was shot and killed by unknown 'assailants' shortly after facebooking his location at a studio. Since that time the gangs have been at war. Over labor day w/e the 18 year old uncle of the 3-year old shot, also a wanna-be rapper and Gangster Disciple gang member named Jerome 'J Money' Wood was shot and killed.

So the park shooting last night was most definitely a battle in the gang war and with the 'bricks' (P. Stone Nation) doing the shooting and contrary to belief, the only true innocent victim in the whole melee is likely the three year old 'Tay Man'.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think they need to investigate more.
were the people who were prescribed these drugs taking them as directed? how often do you hear of people who are in a physicians care, get 'better' and then quit taking their meds? and off the deep end they go.
it seems logical to think that people with psychiatric issues would be inclined to commit crimes like these-they're mentally ill. what would make sense would be to make sure these folks, who are under medical care for severe illness, would be unable to buy or obtain weapons. that way, if they stop taking meds, and go loony, they don't have a gun at hand.
why are we more concerned about their rights as a citizen, then in protecting us from them?
it used to be that if your ex stalked you, the cops did nothing til he actually did something. many times then it was too late. now, they don't wait. why can't we do similar for this?
if a guy 'hears voices' and says so, why don't we confiscate his weapons?
to say that the right to keep and bear shall not be infringed is a red herring, we already have rules for felons, etc. i think we need to extend those bans to people who are loony, violent, etc.
i mean, why in the world does george zimmerman still have guns? how many calls, investigations, restraining orders, etc, before we take them?

Amen and amen...Did you tape and watch weds Daily show and Colbert?
Covered the shooting and Syria..and nailed the Foxies again..

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Amen and amen...Did you tape and watch weds Daily show and Colbert?
Covered the shooting and Syria..and nailed the Foxies again..

i dvr both, have to catch up on them tho. haven't seen the daily show with chelsea clinton (have to admit, i usually don't watch the interviews. it depends on who it's with), and think i have a colbert still in the queue.

i just wish we could figure out a way to cut down on idiots and loonies with guns, before they start coming after people like me because i have guns.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i dvr both, have to catch up on them tho. haven't seen the daily show with chelsea clinton (have to admit, i usually don't watch the interviews. it depends on who it's with), and think i have a colbert still in the queue.

i just wish we could figure out a way to cut down on idiots and loonies with guns, before they start coming after people like me because i have guns.

Do watch Chelsea interview, thought she did well...looks like moma..

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i just wish we could figure out a way to cut down on idiots and loonies with guns, before they start coming after people like me because i have guns.

There's no way there's going to be any major laws regarding gun control passed. If 20 dead six- and seven-year-olds couldn't do it, nothing can.

The percentage of the population who own guns is declining, but the number of guns per person who owns them is going up. Gun manufacturers depend on scaring people into buying multiple guns because they aren't having much luck convincing new owners to purchase.

I wish more attention was paid to the everyday accidental shootings, especially of kids, because a lot of gun owners are incredibly irresponsible about the care of their guns. I have a few friends who are gun owners, which is fine, but I won't be taking my preschooler to visit them, because I don't trust them to have their firearms properly stored. One of them has a father (she lives with her parents) who takes great pleasure in sneaking a gun into Disney World whenever they visit, which is often. He's someone who blames affirmative action for why he never got to be a police officer. I think it was actually that the police departments he applied to could smell the crazy.

[GenuineRisk]

Or, put another way: