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Old 11-21-2006, 08:15 PM
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The nuance isnt that Joint Effort loves Churchill Downs. The nuance is running tWo good races and then two clunkerS and then two good races and then two clunkers.....She has ran once after two clunkers....this will be her 2nd which is in form with her PPs. Again, it is a nuance in running style that most people will get when reading the form. However, you didn't notice the nuance and since a moron can spot the nuance................
She runs different at Churchill b/c Romans is a different trainer at Churchill.
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Old 11-21-2006, 09:27 PM
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I'm playing this 4. Euro: Give me a reason on why your filly gets the trip. Empirically, she has not enjoyed two bends, by ant measure, and genetically certainly not a slam dunk either. Additionally this race is a handicap (the racing secretary assigns weight to each nominee based on past performances) and you do not address the that issue. While at first glance, even in this very weak 132nd rendition, she appears hopeless to many, she is one of two that have run anywhere near the Beyer (102) par for this , I can't quite throw in the towel, but need more convincing. BBB
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:46 PM
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I'm playing this 4. Euro: Give me a reason on why your filly gets the trip. Empirically, she has not enjoyed two bends, by ant measure, and genetically certainly not a slam dunk either. Additionally this race is a handicap (the racing secretary assigns weight to each nominee based on past performances) and you do not address the that issue. While at first glance, even in this very weak 132nd rendition, she appears hopeless to many, she is one of two that have run anywhere near the Beyer (102) par for this , I can't quite throw in the towel, but need more convincing. BBB
Well JE gets in at 115 lbs. Summerly is the highweight at 120. To me, the weight is a non-issue in this race. I dont have the PPs in fron of me but I will try to adress the trip tomorrow. How does that sound?
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Old 11-21-2006, 11:13 PM
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more importantly -- is summerly really like 13 years old?

her best beyer was achieved in 1995? WHOA, have i been missing out?!
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Old 11-22-2006, 08:16 AM
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This is why I think JE wins. Sangrita is the speed of the race and she is stretching out to 1 1/8 miles from a 6f and 1 mile race. I believe she has sprinter speed oppose to horses like Sea Siren, Cryptoquip and Summerly who have route speed. Now I believe that those 3 horses will put enough pressure on Sangrita to force to go faster than what she wants. I believe the fractions will be around :46 1:10 and that is too fast for this race. I believe that JE will get a perfect trip behind the top 5 leaders while being either on the rail or in the 2 path. This is her 2nd off a layoff and she ran a nice 2nd to Sangrita last time out. She was bumped at the 3/16ths pole and went 5 wide and only lost by 2. I think she is set up perfectly for a nice performance. Now I dont think she is the best horse in the race and we all know the best horse doesnt always win....but given how I think the race will play out and how she will improve from her last start equals a win for me. I will play my usual 100 Across on her.
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Old 11-22-2006, 06:05 PM
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Hey euro, you gonna be at Churchill for this one? I've been doing Thankgiving at the track for about the last ten years or so. They put on a nice spread.
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Old 11-22-2006, 07:04 PM
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Joint Effort doesn't look like a two-turn distance horse to me. No thanks.
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Old 11-22-2006, 07:59 PM
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Hey euro, you gonna be at Churchill for this one? I've been doing Thankgiving at the track for about the last ten years or so. They put on a nice spread.
We do every other year at Churchill. They do put on a great day on Thanksgiving. This year we are hosting Thanksgiving since we have a new born. Maybe next year we can hook up. Enjoy your holiday and win some money.
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