A Case for Not Bombing Syria

[GenuineRisk]

Post by John Cole, balloon-juice's site owner.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2013/09/17/long-overdue-3/

Good stuff about the way media will spin things.

Cole, by the way, served in the first Iraq war, and used to be very, very right-wing (which is when I first started reading him).

EDIT: This is not to say that I generally love the US's foreign policy, as I don't. But I think the military industrial complex is bigger than any one person, unfortunately.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Post by John Cole, balloon-juice's site owner.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2013/09/17/long-overdue-3/

Good stuff about the way media will spin things.

Cole, by the way, served in the first Iraq war, and used to be very, very right-wing (which is when I first started reading him).

EDIT: This is not to say that I generally love the US's foreign policy, as I don't. But I think the military industrial complex is bigger than any one person, unfortunately.

yes, it is very large.
and when you say 'shrink the military' people freak out. i don't think they realize how big that albatross is that we have hanging around our collective necks.

as for the foreign policy...it's been off the rails for decades. i think since ww2, before it ended really.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yes, it is very large.
and when you say 'shrink the military' people freak out. i don't think they realize how big that albatross is that we have hanging around our collective necks.

as for the foreign policy...it's been off the rails for decades. i think since ww2, before it ended really.

To most people "Shrink the Military" means we will be invaded.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yes, it is very large.
and when you say 'shrink the military' people freak out. i don't think they realize how big that albatross is that we have hanging around our collective necks.

as for the foreign policy...it's been off the rails for decades. i think since ww2, before it ended really.

DHS which never even existed 12 years ago, is the 2nd largest funded cabinet dept after DoD, costing us 60 billion dollars a year.

Sixty Thousand Million dollars.

A year.

For "Homeland Security".

Anyone else feel like they're getting their money's worth?

[dellinger63]

Strange that when Bush was President the military wasn't described as bigger than one man yet under Obama it suddenly is.

I forgot it was Obama's military when bin-Laden was killed and only became bigger than one man when the Nobel Peace Prize recipient started performing a solo on his war drum.

[Antitrust32]

Dell, I'm confused.... shouldnt you be happy that we are not bombing Syria at the moment?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Dell, I'm confused.... shouldnt you be happy that we are not bombing Syria at the moment?

He was for Not bombing Syria when it looked like we were going to Bomb Syria. Now that cooler heads prevail he is for bombing Syria. Really easy to follow as he is the Yang to Obama's Ying.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by jms62

He was for Not bombing Syria when it looked like we were going to Bomb Syria. Now that cooler heads prevail he is for bombing Syria. Really easy to follow as he is the Yang to Obama's Ying.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by jms62

He was for Not bombing Syria when it looked like we were going to Bomb Syria. Now that cooler heads prevail he is for bombing Syria. Really easy to follow as he is the Yang to Obama's Ying.

It's a textbook example of modern-day conservatism, which is the opposite of what liberals want, updated daily.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Dell, I'm confused.... shouldnt you be happy that we are not bombing Syria at the moment?

it's not confusing.
whatever obama does is wrong. even if he decided to do the opposite of what was originally planned.

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

It's a textbook example of modern-day conservatism, which is the opposite of what liberals want, updated daily.

it's the same mindset as our foreign policy for decades. the ussr/russia is for it? then we're against it. oh, now they're against it. well, then we're for it. just like domestically, where obamacare was once a republican idea.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's the same mindset as our foreign policy for decades. the ussr/russia is for it? then we're against it. oh, now they're against it. well, then we're for it. just like domestically, where obamacare was once a republican idea.

"Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia."

Oh, Georgie O., you crazy Socialist, you.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's not confusing.
whatever obama does is wrong. even if he decided to do the opposite of what was originally planned.
.

Except Obama, almost alone, was for bombing Syria before he was against it. (consistent)

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Dell, I'm confused.... shouldnt you be happy that we are not bombing Syria at the moment?

I'm happy whether it be Putin or Congress or popular opinion that changed Obama-Cheney, I mean Obama-Kerry from bombing Syria. Also let the boots on the ground if needed to affirm all chem weapons are accounted for and destroyed be other than American troops.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

DHS which never even existed 12 years ago, is the 2nd largest funded cabinet dept after DoD, costing us 60 billion dollars a year.

Sixty Thousand Million dollars.

A year.

For "Homeland Security".

Anyone else feel like they're getting their money's worth?

No.
it's ridiculous...and booming business for contractors. what gets me is when you read about millions of $ worth of equipment that is in storage, ordered but never installed for buildings, airports, etc.
then you have defense contractors who keep lucrative contracts because the senators in the states that have those contractors don't want to cut jobs. huge money involved in keeping us 'safe'. from terrorists....
more people die in a month from car accidents than have died in all the years from 9-11 to now, from terrorists.
then you have nsa et al spying on us....who are we staying safe from again?

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yes, it is very large.
and when you say 'shrink the military' people freak out. i don't think they realize how big that albatross is that we have hanging around our collective necks.

as for the foreign policy...it's been off the rails for decades. i think since ww2, before it ended really.

I have a cartoon for that..btw, if the Russian disposal plan works, guess who will be next years Nobel Peace Prize winner