A Case for Not Bombing Syria

bigrun · #1 09-05-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

did the book say if saddam was removed, it would lead to chaos in iraq, as well as the rest of the region? that it would embolden iran and syria? that it would make things worse instead of better? that the other dictators all wanted saddam to stay, as they knew they'd all be targets in future? you know...just like putin doesn't want to be seen as backing regime change, engineered and orchestrated by rival countries...because he might well see it happen in russia? i mean, the people can only be placated by so many outdoorsy man with no shirt photos.

Didn't spell all of that out but was a given..

Shirtless Putin and poker playing McCain are the latest rage..

They pushed Weiner off the list..

my miss storm cat · #2 09-05-2013, 02:47 PM

Our President scares the **** out of me.

Can anyone tell me they honestly believe the man knows what he's doing?

bigrun · #3 09-05-2013, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Our President scares the **** out of me.

Can anyone tell me they honestly believe the man knows what he's doing?

What worries me now is that he has McCain and Boner on his side

Now that scares the **** outta me..

my miss storm cat · #4 09-05-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun

What worries me now is that he has McCain and Boner on his side

Now that scares the **** outta me..

They all need to go.

dellinger63 · #5 09-05-2013, 03:41 PM

I find it amazing the President went to congress 'to get the people's opinion' when all he had to do is look at recent public polls, swallow some pride and admit bombing Syria is crazy. Especially considering you have Assad on one side and al Qaeda on the other. And when Syria has been given more than enough time to relocate and hide military assets.

It seems the President now desires to slap Assad in the face with a glove rather than throw a punch. Very French-like of him.

Meanwhile in other news, the Treasury Secretary is warning we're running out of money again and our seniors and military might not get paid. No worries for the likes of Egypt, Afghanistan etc. they getting their paper. But let's keep focus on Syria.

Danzig · #6 09-05-2013, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Our President scares the **** out of me.

Can anyone tell me they honestly believe the man knows what he's doing?

he's a far cry from the guy who ran for office, isn't he?

i usually like being right...but i'd have rather been wrong about him and everything going on so far this year.
thus far, his 2nd term is going really, amazingly badly.

the only bright spot seems to be that the economy is doing ok. for now.

#7 09-05-2013, 07:06 PM

Has anyone seen a recent picture of Obama? His hair is rapidly turning pure white as he gets the crap kicked out of him on Syria and Obamacare.

I hope the Syria thing doesn't go for a vote, because there's no way that it will pass. That NY Times picture today sealed the deal. Obama needs to find a way out of this, and quick. I'm beginning to think that Kerry/Obama is starting to look like a Bizzaro Cheney/Bush thing.

Danzig · #8 09-05-2013, 07:22 PM

it seemed like a done deal at first, but i'm not so sure that congress will vote to strike syria. it's not in our interests, in any way, shape or form, and would probably cause more problems than it would solve. because it would most likely solve nothing.

jms62 · #9 09-06-2013, 06:30 AM

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/05/ir...us-hits-syria/

geeker2 · #10 09-06-2013, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Our President scares the **** out of me.

Can anyone tell me they honestly believe the man knows what he's doing?

don't blame me I voted for Mitt

Oh and I say we should stay the F out of it.

GBBob · #11 09-06-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by geeker2

don't blame me I voted for Mitt

Oh and I say we should stay the F out of it.

Mitt..lol..puhleese

So are you oppsed to any US involvement even ifthere was absolute proof/admission etc that this guy is gassing his own citizens? Or are you agaibst it because there is some uncertainty?

geeker2 · #12 09-06-2013, 12:48 PM

Look at you the War Hawk now

I guess I have now seen enough failed efforts in the Middle East and the lost of US life. Went to the Chargers game the other night. They honored the wounded warriors and those that lost their life. Not sure trading life for life is an answer. I know some people that suffer from PTSD - makes life very difficult for them and their families.

How long will be be before we have boots on the ground?

GBBob · #13 09-06-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2

Look at you the War Hawk now

I guess I have now seen enough failed efforts in the Middle East and the lost of US life. Went to the Chargers game the other night. They honored the wounded warriors and those that lost their life. Not sure trading life for life is an answer. I know some people that suffer from PTSD - makes life very difficult for them and their families.

How long will be be before we have boots on the ground?

I absolutely oppose BOG, and hope there isn't a slippery slope leading to that.

Danzig · #14 09-06-2013, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

I absolutely oppose BOG, and hope there isn't a slippery slope leading to that.

thats one of my issues with the subject. there is no guarantee (how could there be?) that it wouldn't come to that eventually.

i have uncertainty about who used what over there. i also do not want us involved in someone else's civil war...especially when you don't know who the good guys are, or if there are good guys.

there's also the fact that the middle east is like a big pool of quicksand. doesn't appear too dangerous, seems easy enough to handle...and then the longer you struggle, the worse off you are.

lastly, what has it got to do with us? our national security, or the security of any allies? nothing. more to lose than to gain.

bigrun · #15 09-06-2013, 01:51 PM

Got this email from a Texas bud...

Dear John & Grace,
The Bishops of the United States are asking that all Catholics join with Pope Francis in praying for a peaceful resolution to the crisis in Syria on Saturday, September 7. The Pope is holding a Prayer Vigil in St. Peter Square from 7:00 to 11:00pm Saturday night (that’s 12:00 to 4:00pm Dallas time). I would encourage all members of the parish to join as families and/or with friends in observing some form of prayer and fasting tomorrow. While our church is occupied all day tomorrow, the Eucharistic Chapel is certainly available for private/personal prayer should you choose to spend some time before the Blessed Sacrament reserved in the Tabernacle.

More information about the crisis and the position of the U. S. Bishops on the crisis can be found at http://cms.usccb.org/issues-and-acti...yria/index.cfm.

Please pray for peace!

Fr. Bob

Reverend Monsignor Robert M. Coerver, V.F.
Pastor
Saint Rita Catholic Community
12521 Inwood Road
Dallas, TX 75244

dellinger63 · #16 09-06-2013, 01:22 PM

How morally bankrupt must an adult human be, to threaten raping an underage daughter of an enemy? And how evil must a country be to publicize said threat?

Danzig · #17 09-05-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun

Didn't spell all of that out but was a given..

Shirtless Putin and poker playing McCain are the latest rage..

They pushed Weiner off the list..

wow.
weiner just got into a yelling match, saw it earlier.