Death By Jogging

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's actually less expensive to give life in prison instead of the death penalty.

B/c of appeals and our irrational system. Bullets are cheap. I don't want this to be a debate about the death penalty. If you aren't going to use it, don't have it, that's fine by me. I just can't understand this kind of senselessness. Four families ruined. Hard to imagine.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

B/c of appeals and our irrational system. Bullets are cheap. I don't want this to be a debate about the death penalty. If you aren't going to use it, don't have it, that's fine by me. I just can't understand this kind of senselessness. Four families ruined. Hard to imagine.

you say you don't want it to be a debate about the death penalty, but you posted :

'That's ok, 150k a year to house these 3 for the rest of their lives b/c they won't get the death penalty. '

yeah, makes sense....



yeah, it's irrational to make sure people aren't guilty before we kill them. i mean, we never, ever see people getting sent away that turn out to be innocent.

yes, it's senseless. yes, the visceral reaction is to do to them what they did...but then, that would put us on their level, wouldn't it?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you say you don't want it to be a debate about the death penalty, but you posted :

'That's ok, 150k a year to house these 3 for the rest of their lives b/c they won't get the death penalty. '

yeah, makes sense....



yeah, it's irrational to make sure people aren't guilty before we kill them. i mean, we never, ever see people getting sent away that turn out to be innocent.

yes, it's senseless. yes, the visceral reaction is to do to them what they did...but then, that would put us on their level, wouldn't it?

Umm, so 3 false confessions. Eyewitnesses, a gun in their possession that matches the murder weapon...no let's not jump to conclusions. I realize I made a comment about the cost of prison. I'm sorry that's all you could see. Good day.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Umm, so 3 false confessions. Eyewitnesses, a gun in their possession that matches the murder weapon...no let's not jump to conclusions. I realize I made a comment about the cost of prison. I'm sorry that's all you could see. Good day.

yes, this seems an open and shut case. doesn't change my opinion on the death penalty one whit. and no, it's not 'all i could see'.


i also find the unequal sentencing racewise to be especially troubling. a study i read just a few weeks back discussed the disproportionate amount of blacks on death row vs whites, as well as the skewed numbers regarding white victims vs black.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/201...or_one_of.html


this growing scandal is one example of how justice can be skewed, tainted, etc, and is one of the reasons why i am against the death penalty.

locally, we had a couple investigators who were found to have lied about their past, education, training, etc. it brought all their credibility into question, and several convictions had to be tossed because the two were the only two to investigate some crimes.
i can't help but wonder about other labs...and as someone once said about dna evidence, it is only as good as the person reading the results.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yes, it's senseless. yes, the visceral reaction is to do to them what they did...but then, that would put us on their level, wouldn't it?

Except the person they killed was innocent?

How about this. We extradite them to Australia where they are released in the middle of the outback. If they make it to civilization, I'm sure the Aussies will treat them fairly.

[randallscott35]

Now the top story on google news. Took long enough...Australia's former PM saying to boycott the US over this. Which is also ridiculous.