Beyer: The worst bad-beat story of all time

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Cardus

"I don’t believe that anybody would have bought a ticket at 8 in the morning and singled the 5 horse," Appell said.

So who is he indicting?

Does he think that there was a fraudulent ticket -- meaning that there was fraud committed at Arlington Park -- or does he believe that Louisiana Downs committed fraud of some kind? Or the tote company?

Since Louisiana Downs posted the incorrect Will Pay, I understand their anger -- and who wouldn't be livid? -- but I wish there was clarification on that point. From the column, it is not clear who Appell believes has cheated him.

I think it depends on the size of that ticket. It would have made no sense to play an expensive ticket singling a seemingly hopeless (I presume) 30-1 ML horse in the last. But if it was a smallish ticket, and the bettor wanted to have the only winning ticket, then using a 30-1 ML horse might make more sense.
Although admittedly singling it would be somewhat suspicious.

But just to add to the bizarre aspect of the bet, if this person had used 2 horses, and one was the winner, while the other was the 30-1 ML horse, who scratched, then he would have scratched into his own horse, thereby having it twice, and costing himself the entire pool?? Had there been no other tickets on the winner of course.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by golfer

I think it depends on the size of that ticket. It would have made no sense to play an expensive ticket singling a seemingly hopeless (I presume) 30-1 ML horse in the last. But if it was a smallish ticket, and the bettor wanted to have the only winning ticket, then using a 30-1 ML horse might make more sense.
Although admittedly singling it would be somewhat suspicious.

The record of the wager I received was the actual winning bet, so I saw just the 50-cent wager. I have no idea whether or not he made additional wagers or if it was one bet in a pile of bets on the same ticket. I was told it was a "Quick Pick" ... although I can't confirm that, but that would explain the oddity of the selection and be an appropriate ending to an already crazy story.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

The record of the wager I received was the actual winning bet, so I saw just the 50-cent wager. I have no idea whether or not he made additional wagers or if it was one bet in a pile of bets on the same ticket. I was told it was a "Quick Pick" ... although I can't confirm that, but that would explain the oddity of the selection and be an appropriate ending to an already crazy story.

That would be the most likely explanation.

But all this does go back to the problems of being put on the favorite in a scratch situation. There are times when a simulcast player won't even know who the favorite was until after the race, as the odds are available, but the pools aren't, and there could be multiple horses at the same odds. And the track announcer wouldn't even be able to tell everyone at post time, because we all know the money hasn't all been co-mingled at that point.
Strange game we play.

[randallscott35]

Quick Pick on horses? Beyond bizarre

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Quick Pick on horses? Beyond bizarre

it worked tho...

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it worked tho...

I didn't even know such a thing existed in horse racing.

[10 pnt move up]

It does provide hope that there is still dumb enough players out there to fatten the pools.......I mean what else would you call someone betting into a 62.5% takeout?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I didn't even know such a thing existed in horse racing.

Randall, the AmTote machines here have a quick pick function where you can do a bunch of different things. It is generally saved for old people or people that have never been there. Some of my wifes friends like goofing around with it also. You can pretty much put the 'quick pick' function on ANY bet, your just letting the machine pick a random number. When the GP P6 was insanely high, I saw someone sit at a machine for close to 30 minutes doing quick picks, spent about 50$ for 500 tickets.

Years and year ago when the dog track was open in Kenosha, and we were underage but they accepted our horrible Colorado ID's, my friend hit a quick pick trifecta up there that paid close to 4k on $1.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Cardus

If you cannot confirm that, then why post that it was a "'Quick Pick'"?

"I wonder if it were a Quick Pick" would have been responsible.

I shouldn't say I "can't confirm" ... I was told that it was by someone who would know on Sunday morning as a follow-up to the gathering of info the night before. I was not made aware of it until I spoke with Andy Beyer, which is why he didn't mention it.