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Old 07-09-2013, 05:04 PM
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Thanks. I'd certainly enjoy being in New Orleans in the winter and I know I would be an asset to the bettors in that role.

However, I'm on the team with TimeformUS right now...and have been working with them for over a year now...and we're in BETA mode and just about to launch.

If you're a TVG customer...you can check out the TimeformUS past performances right now.

I'm both a figuremaker and analyst for them.

I think you guys will really enjoy the past performances and figures. The PP's have a cleaner and more modernized look to them ... and a lot of really useful innovations have been made to help bettors get an edge.

A lot of good horse racing minds are involved with the team, and I'm very excited about the product, especially as it becomes more complete.

Marc Attenberg, the former Vice President/Digital Development at DRF during the years when Formulator got rolling, is my boss...and he's had to endure a lot of my input and suggestions...to go along with a lot of very good ideas already in place.

DerbyTrail poster CJ is the chief figuremaker. I think you guys will very much enjoy betting with TimeformUS past performances.
Wow that's great news. Goodluck to u and CJ with the new chapter in the horse racing industry.

I'm gonna check it out. I always like reading and learning from your post/threads... Keep up your good work
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:16 PM
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Congrats Dougie-poo! The information that you have provided here has been both invaluable and original and you have taught me more about watching races and horse history than any other resource.

I can't wait to see your work there.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:08 PM
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Congrats Dougie-poo! The information that you have provided here has been both invaluable and original and you have taught me more about watching races and horse history than any other resource.

I can't wait to see your work there.
Really....He is still selling hot dog vouchers at PID that he scammed in a betting promotion. Just because he finally got a real job? The guy was O for 32 years now Lo and Behold CJ takes pity on him and he is Dougie Poo from Dougie poop?

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Old 07-09-2013, 06:16 PM
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Congrats guys! Looking forward to it. Now i can see your frustration with the tracks tele timers as your numbers are formulated with pace and final time..Anyway, best of luck!
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:42 PM
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Great news. Been a big fan of CJs figures. Good luck guys
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:03 PM
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I just watched some videos and it looks very cool. I will sign up as soon as you open for business.

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Old 07-09-2013, 07:28 PM
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How are blinkers on/off going to be treated in the Pace Projector?
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:54 PM
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How are blinkers on/off going to be treated in the Pace Projector?
That's a great question.

The pace projector is based off of past pace figures and running styles.

Blinkers are generally a speed enhancer and can sometimes fire up a horse early on, but they come in different cup sizes and it's very tough to quantify how much of an impact they will have on a horses early speed.

The pace projector is nice because it gives a quick and clean look at how the pace is expected to unfold based on past data... but it does not take into account the human factor or equipment changes like 1st blinkers. That part, is left up to the bettor.

The human factor is the other main thing that's hard to quantify. Jockeys, either by their own choice or by trainer instruction, can hustle a horse early and get it to show uncharacteristic levels of early speed. Just as they can grab a hold of the horse, and rate it along through the early stages, going much slower than it typically would.

If a jockey/trainer thinks that a race is paceless or thinks that the track is speed biased... they're more likely to ride aggressive early. In situations where the pace figures to be contested, and the strongest horses are mid-pack or closer types...you'll often see multiple jockeys trying to hold their horses through the early stages.

Basically, the human factor and equipment changes are left up to the bettor.

A great example of the usefulness of the pace projector in a high profile race just happened with the Queen's Plate last Sunday:



At just a glance, it was crystal clear that Midnight Aria was projected to be absolutely isolated on a loose early lead. As it turned out, he was able to glide along on a loose early lead with no pressure. Midnight Aria parlayed the perfect trip into a wire-to-wire win at 16/1 odds.
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:49 PM
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It looks tremendous guys. Nice touch with the free daily race and instructional videos because there's a lot of great info from what I can see.
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:57 PM
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Congrats guys! Looking forward to it. Now i can see your frustration with the tracks tele timers as your numbers are formulated with pace and final time..Anyway, best of luck!
It can be really frustrating, but it can be a good thing because we catch a lot of them that other providers don't. I'm sure we don't catch every one but do get most.
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:47 PM
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congrats, and best of luck!
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