Highest pace figure in a dirt race so far this year

[10 pnt move up]

1/9? I was able to make a little but that horse did not look 1/9 on paper, that was kinda a "they knew" type deal, especially how easy the horse won.

to add to that the 1 looked like the weaker half of the entries, had never been in the front let along shortening up today, yet was hand ridden after dueling.......have to note not to trust that barn.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

1/9? I was able to make a little but that horse did not look 1/9 on paper, that was kinda a "they knew" type deal, especially how easy the horse won.

to add to that the 1 looked like the weaker half of the entries, had never been in the front let along shortening up today, yet was hand ridden after dueling.......have to note not to trust that barn.

How much did they need to "know" with the horse dropping from an open N1WX allowance in which he was 9/2 into a $5,000 NW1Y or NW4 lifetime race?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

How much did they need to "know" with the horse dropping from an open N1WX allowance in which he was 9/2 into a $5,000 NW1Y or NW4 lifetime race?

I use figures and he had no real advantage and some N1wx's can be pretty weak.

The class handicappers had their way I suppose but 1/9 I reserve for a horse like Zenyatta in a 1x race not that horse.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I use figures and he had no real advantage and some N1wx's can be pretty weak.

The class handicappers had their way I suppose but 1/9 I reserve for a horse like Zenyatta in a 1x race not that horse.

Fair enough on how you got there. I just thought it was splitting hairs between whether the entry was going to go to post at 30 cents on the dollar or 10 cents on the dollar, definitely not something anyone had to have any secretive knowledge about for a betting interest that was obviously going to go strongly favored, and was odds-on to be odds-on in that race.

The horse had a massive class edge and was beaten just five lengths two starts back at the same trip behind a horse who came back to repeat in what was arguably the best main track allowance we've had all meet top to bottom.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Fair enough on how you got there. I just thought it was splitting hairs between whether the entry was going to go to post at 30 cents on the dollar or 10 cents on the dollar, definitely not something anyone had to have any secretive knowledge about for a betting interest that was obviously going to go strongly favored, and was odds-on to be odds-on in that race.

The horse had a massive class edge and was beaten just five lengths two starts back at the same trip behind a horse who came back to repeat in what was arguably the best main track allowance we've had all meet top to bottom.

Besides Ville, the other horse made just as much sense.

The more shocking thing to me is that Ville was not claimed, I know of 4 people that were dropping a slip on him if they liked what they saw in the paddock and obviously all four did not.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Scav

Besides Ville, the other horse made just as much sense.

The more shocking thing to me is that Ville was not claimed, I know of 4 people that were dropping a slip on him if they liked what they saw in the paddock and obviously all four did not.

Ville kinda smelled on paper to me and that's why I was interested in the race, on figures he dominated the field and was in good form to be dropped into that spot. I know nothing about Chicago racing, I mean zero, so it was an outsiders perspective.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Ville kinda smelled on paper to me and that's why I was interested in the race, on figures he dominated the field and was in good form to be dropped into that spot. I know nothing about Chicago racing, I mean zero, so it was an outsiders perspective.

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I use figures and he had no real advantage

Huh?

Either way, you're correct about there being red flags all over it considering the horse was more or less in career form a couple starts back. If the horse stays together, they may have gotten away with one, because that horse is now eligible for starters and could probably do a little bit of damage at the level.