explosions at boston marathon

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jocko699

Ok, that clears that up, sheesh.

Look, I'm in the middle of the Ozarks, on my phone. Go look it up, I don't have recourse to cite sources right now. Besides, I think this guy will give up everything he knows.

[jocko699]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Look, I'm in the middle of the Ozarks, on my phone. Go look it up, I don't have recourse to cite sources right now. Besides, I think this guy will give up everything he knows.

I am in the middle of the US and retired military. You go look up what answers we can get. Oops, forgot you can't get that info.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jocko699

I am in the middle of the US and retired military. You go look up what answers we can get. Oops, forgot you can't get that info.

I'm travelling. On hwy 5 in the middle of nowhere. Oh, and former military too. Thanks for your service.

[geeker2]

Zig I suggest you stop at the nearest bar and celebrate

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Look, I'm in the middle of the Ozarks, on my phone. Go look it up, I don't have recourse to cite sources right now. Besides, I think this guy will give up everything he knows.

are you heading out to see the Ozark Mountain Daredevils, Jackie Blue ?


Boston Police will have no problem making him talk. Hell they beat confessions out of innocent guys if the need arises. A guy who did it shouldn't be a problem

[PeteMugg]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

are you heading out to see the Ozark Mountain Daredevils, Jackie Blue ?


Boston Police will have no problem making him talk. Hell they beat confessions out of innocent guys if the need arises. A guy who did it shouldn't be a problem

OMD had so much good music, but I never understood the love for Jackie Blue.

[Alabama Stakes]

kind of that eerie sounding wa wa of the guitar made it such an FM fave. First time I heard a whole album I was blown away. Just another underrated tight band from the 70's

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...s_brother.html

[GenuineRisk]

This is a very brief history of Miranda v. Arizona:

http://crime.about.com/od/police/a/miranda_rights.htm

Essentially, the right to remain silent is not waived if Tsarnaev is not read the Miranda (a right exists independent of whether a person is aware of it); it just means in this case it would then be up to a judge to decide if any information he gave prior to him being informed of those rights covered in the Miranda is admissible in court (I think, but I am not a lawyer, that without the public safety clause being exercised, any information he gave prior to being read the Miranda would automatically not be admissible). The Miranda is just about making sure a suspect is aware of his or her right against self-incrimination.

But in this case it sounds like a non-issue. The public safety exception has a 48 hour limit, which will more than have expired by the time this kid is capable of speaking, and it sounds like there is so much other evidence against him that anything he says will not affect the prosecution's case anyway.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

This is a very brief history of Miranda v. Arizona:

http://crime.about.com/od/police/a/miranda_rights.htm

Essentially, the right to remain silent is not waived if Tsarnaev is not read the Miranda (a right exists independent of whether a person is aware of it); it just means in this case it would then be up to a judge to decide if any information he gave prior to him being informed of those rights covered in the Miranda is admissible in court (I think, but I am not a lawyer, that without the public safety clause being exercised, any information he gave prior to being read the Miranda would automatically not be admissible). The Miranda is just about making sure a suspect is aware of his or her right against self-incrimination.

But in this case it sounds like a non-issue. The public safety exception has a 48 hour limit, which will more than have expired by the time this kid is capable of speaking, and it sounds like there is so much other evidence against him that anything he says will not affect the prosecution's case anyway.

Here's something on Miranda in this case..

The Obama administration has announced that it will employ the little-used public-safety exception to question Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev without reading him his Miranda rights.

It’s an uncommon justification that the FBI explains dates back to September 11, 1980, and involves neutralizing remaining threats to public safety before “Mirandizing” a suspect.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/20/ho...#ixzz2R7mtEBqO