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![]() Sighty dear please show him yours so he'll show us his. |
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In this particular instance ... mine isn't much worth seeing.
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(otherwise known as still thinking! ) |
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Current consensus 5-4-3-2-1 top to bottom.
Orb-55 Normandy Invasion-29 Goldenencents-27 Verrazano-24 Govenor Charlie-20 Itsmyluckyday-20 Java's War-20 Revolutionary-18 Lines of Battle-9 Overanalyze-9 Palice Malice-9 Oxbow-7 Will Take Charge-7 Falling Sky-4 Super Ninety Nine-3 Black Onyx-2 Frac Daddy-2 Tiz a Minister-2 Vyjack-2 MyLute-1 Last edited by Port Conway Lane : 04-19-2013 at 12:00 PM. Reason: update |
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or maybe i'll be the one surprised? ![]() |
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Itsmyluckyday is a leave in here because his best races are some of the best of the group and he'll likely be overlooked. Ok Dougie. Show me yours. ![]() |
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I haven't had time to take a more complete look at the projected field until this morning.
1.) Goldencents 2.) Normandy Invasion 3.) Revolutionary 4.) Verrazano 5.) Orb A LOT of work still pending to be done after the race is drawn. I'm especially interested in noting how horses who raced on the main track Santa Anita Derby day comeback and perform. I think the figure is solid that day, but I want to be sure the track wasn't speed biased. So, study will be done on how speeds and one-dimensional closers who raced that day performed next out. Obviously, a more thorough review of all of the preps is needed for me. I don't see anything clear-cut ... and nothing ever is with very lightly raced 3-year-olds stretching out. |
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Arrogate is the best horse since The Bid, and The Bid was better than Secretariat!!!! |
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None of the other closers in this race can move with Mylute, he has a Street Sense like far turn move, to say he hasn't been able to sustain it has been an understatement.
I bet him in the Louisiana Derby last time because I loved the blinkers coming off and he had strong efforts two and three back. He got a patient ride, looked like a certain winner, and even without the blinkers, he hung terribly again in deep stretch and it cost him the win. If this was Europe and they had in-race exchange wagering, I'd look to take a position betting against him at the top of the stretch because he will look serious turning for home. He could run a Wheelaway type race. Overanalyze is one of the few Pletchers I expect to improve a lot as the year goes on. All throughout history, when horses run big races going 9 furlongs as 2-year-olds and are subsequently laid up... they always struggle to come back to form initially. In the old days, horses like Overanalyze and Normandy Invasion would have been brought back in 6 furlong races and trained harder. Overanalyze and Normandy Invasion are Travers horses IMO. I expect steady improvement from both through the summer. |
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Who's going to run with Goldencents for the first 1/2 mile? I think he'll be loping along 3+ lengths out in front, unless he can't get footing on the wet track.
1. Goldencents 2. Itsmyluckyday 3. Orb 4. Verrazano 5. Java's War --Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson |
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1. Verrazano
2. Revolutionary 3. Normandy Invasion 4. Java's War 5. Orb |
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I keep looking for who else has him and am not seeing it (and yes, I know it's terribly important but just sayin...)
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For instance I chose Govenor Charlie only because he has no relationship with any other runner in the field. The same could be said for the Dubai runner although he has had past relationships with more notable runners who could be running in the derby. Hint: Don't look too far from your post. ![]() |
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I liked the move he made during the San Felipe when he was like 18 lengths back... to me it says he has right style to be a Derby winner. I liked him when he won the race at at HP back in November. Prior to that, at Del Mar, Iggy had the mount and he was 2nd which shows that he doesn't need a good jockey (I do like Talamo a LOT).I like Talamo a LOT (I just said that but it's officially a reason). He looked good beating Omega Star and Surfcup back in January. I like that his trainer is not a Pletcher or Baffert type. He'll be at good odds. He is the biggest horse his owners have ever had... hard not to root for that kinda thing. |
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Now I'd like to hear from the soup 99 guy.Anyway the points are assigned 5 for top pick,4 for 2nd,etc. You chose him 4th giving him 2 points so you are the only one who chose him ![]() |