The Official Your Top 5 Thread

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I respectfully disagree.

Any opinion that can't be defended when questioned or ridiculed is a very weak one.

And indeed, if one offers an opinion that is so weak that you're unwilling to explain the basis or provide it a thorough defense ... why even bother sharing? It's clutter.

You know I respect your opinion but I disagree... it's not clutter. And besides... you have never seemed the type who would rather keep your mouth shut than to deal with confrontation or just plain nastiness for the sake of being nasty like some of us have had to.

There are a lot of different types here and a thread like this? Sorry I think it should be fun and open to everyone no matter what their opinions are without having to have people who seem to love taking little jobs taunt them.

Wait for the weather, post position draw, final fields, etc. for really serious discussion or the threads who proclaim the winner this early out. This should be fun and once the negativity starts? 50/50 there's a domino effect.

Okay so who else has a top 5?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

And besides... you have never seemed the type who would rather keep your mouth shut than to deal with confrontation or just plain nastiness for the sake of being nasty like some of us have had to.

I desperately crave attention and confrontation ... when I'm away from this board, I only get the former about 3 nights a week and I never get the latter from anyone.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Okay so who else has a top 5?

I refuse to post mine until Sighty posts hers.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I desperately crave attention and confrontation ... when I'm away from the computer, I only get the former about 3 nights a week and I never get the latter from anyone.

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I refuse to post mine until Sighty posts hers.

Sighty dear please show him yours so he'll show us his.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Sighty dear please show him yours so he'll show us his.

In this particular instance ... mine isn't much worth seeing.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Sighty dear please show him yours so he'll show us his.

I'm going for the long tantalizing tease!





(otherwise known as still thinking! )

[Port Conway Lane]

Current consensus 5-4-3-2-1 top to bottom.

Orb-55
Normandy Invasion-29
Goldenencents-27
Verrazano-24
Govenor Charlie-20
Itsmyluckyday-20
Java's War-20
Revolutionary-18
Lines of Battle-9
Overanalyze-9
Palice Malice-9
Oxbow-7
Will Take Charge-7
Falling Sky-4
Super Ninety Nine-3
Black Onyx-2
Frac Daddy-2
Tiz a Minister-2
Vyjack-2
MyLute-1

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

Current consensus 5-4-3-2-1 top to bottom. Vyjack asking for your support

Orb-42
Normandy Invasion-24
Goldenencents-23
Govenor Charlie-20
Revolutionary-16
Itsmyluckyday-15
Java's War-12
Verrazano-10
Lines of Battle-9
Overanalyze-7
Oxbow-7
Will Take Charge-7
Falling Sky-4
Palice Malice-4
Super Ninety Nine-3
Black Onyx-2
Frac Daddy-2
Tiz a Minister-2
MyLute-1

i have vyjack in my exacta pix, in mmsc's thread. surprised he's not gotten any support in this one.
or maybe i'll be the one surprised?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

Current consensus 5-4-3-2-1 top to bottom. Vyjack asking for your support

Orb-42
Normandy Invasion-24
Goldenencents-23
Govenor Charlie-20
Revolutionary-16
Itsmyluckyday-15
Java's War-12
Verrazano-10
Lines of Battle-9
Overanalyze-7
Oxbow-7
Will Take Charge-7
Falling Sky-4
Palice Malice-4
Super Ninety Nine-3
Black Onyx-2
Frac Daddy-2
Tiz a Minister-2
MyLute-1

It was a draw between Oxbow and Will Take Charge for me and a wet track would change my choice between the two and I'll really be reading what is said about them in the next few weeks leading up to the Derby. Few of these horses really seem like they are "bred for the distance." I would love to hear what someone like Andy thinks about the repeated bad trips for Oxbow. Normandy is a more "solid" selection of the pair, but the overflowing love has turned me off.

Itsmyluckyday is a leave in here because his best races are some of the best of the group and he'll likely be overlooked.

Ok Dougie. Show me yours.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Ok Dougie. Show me yours.

I haven't had time to take a more complete look at the projected field until this morning.

1.) Goldencents
2.) Normandy Invasion
3.) Revolutionary
4.) Verrazano
5.) Orb

A LOT of work still pending to be done after the race is drawn.

I'm especially interested in noting how horses who raced on the main track Santa Anita Derby day comeback and perform. I think the figure is solid that day, but I want to be sure the track wasn't speed biased. So, study will be done on how speeds and one-dimensional closers who raced that day performed next out.

Obviously, a more thorough review of all of the preps is needed for me. I don't see anything clear-cut ... and nothing ever is with very lightly raced 3-year-olds stretching out.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

It was a draw between Oxbow and Will Take Charge for me and a wet track would change my choice between the two and I'll really be reading what is said about them in the next few weeks leading up to the Derby. Few of these horses really seem like they are "bred for the distance." I would love to hear what someone like Andy thinks about the repeated bad trips for Oxbow. Normandy is a more "solid" selection of the pair, but the overflowing love has turned me off.

Itsmyluckyday is a leave in here because his best races are some of the best of the group and he'll likely be overlooked.

Ok Dougie. Show me yours.

Taking out Will Take Charge for Overanalyze

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

Tiz a Minister-2

I keep looking for who else has him and am not seeing it (and yes, I know it's terribly important but just sayin...)

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I keep looking for who else has him and am not seeing it (and yes, I know it's terribly important but just sayin...)

I will let you know exactly who else has him only if you give your reasons for choosing him. They don't have to be good reasons.
For instance I chose Govenor Charlie only because he has no relationship with any other runner in the field. The same could be said for the Dubai runner although he has had past relationships with more notable runners who could be running in the derby.
Hint: Don't look too far from your post.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

You know I respect your opinion but I disagree... it's not clutter.

You know I respect your opinion, but asking people not to disagree with each other is essentially asking people not to have a discussion.

And I'm sorry, but if people can't handle being disagreed with, then we as people who read the board are probably better off having them decide "the hell with it," anyway.

I thought a fair question was asked and might actually stimulate a discussion.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You know I respect your opinion, but asking people not to disagree with each other is essentially asking people not to have a discussion.

And I'm sorry, but if people can't handle being disagreed with, then we as people who read the board are probably better off having them decide "the hell with it," anyway.

I thought a fair question was asked and might actually stimulate a discussion.

Okay, Hossy,

[Revidere]

1. Palace Malice
2. Orb
3. Verazzano
4. Overanalyze
5. Normandy Invasion

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You know I respect your opinion, but asking people not to disagree with each other is essentially asking people not to have a discussion.

And I'm sorry, but if people can't handle being disagreed with, then we as people who read the board are probably better off having them decide "the hell with it," anyway.

I thought a fair question was asked and might actually stimulate a discussion.

says the guy who hated the politics room.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Danzig

says the guy who hated the politics room.

That isn't really fair, is it?

I didn't hate the politics room. I understood why it was removed and have NEVER had a problem with disagreement.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

That isn't really fair, is it?

I didn't hate the politics room. I understood why it was removed and have NEVER had a problem with disagreement.

i was picking on you, i know how you really felt.

[declansharbor]

I posted that comment for two reasons.

1) To bait the guy into another west coast biased post.
2) To find out from someone who labeled Linda Rice as a juicer and Verrazano as a NY horse, how he figured Super Ninety Nine would somehow get the distance.